Turbo NAS 412 - Backup Issues

[vards01]

mega byte per second. Must have been getting my powers wrong, before it was around 30 kbps...so a vast improvement.

The marketing term became apparent on install 300mbps per channel i.e. 300mbps 2.4G / 300mbps 5G

It is backup night tonight so we shall see.

[P3R]

mega byte per second.

Then it's a good wireless connection.

The marketing term became apparent on install 300mbps per channel i.e. 300mbps 2.4G / 300mbps 5G

Ahh okay, I was a bit confused about the 600 Mbps number but that explains it. Borderline fraud isn't it...

I guess we should grateful they don't count the aggregate speed of all wired ports and claim 5 Gbps wired performance (or maybe they do that as well?).

It is backup night tonight so we shall see.

Let's keep our fingers crossed.

[vards01]

Right, I have returned with no better results.

Last week still had machines failing.

The message received within the backup software is 'network location not available'

I am stuck now on the best way forward.......any help much appreciated.

I have not received any further lan messages in the system logs on the NAS.

On the one machine out of 4 that actually succeeded, the backup took a mear 30min for 18GB data, so if I could get all the machines working it would be a great solution......I'm really loosing faith here in wireless connections, I'm also finding the new Netgear rather glitchy in maintaining wireless connection.

Wondering if I would be better off using static IPs as oppose to DCHP.......

[P3R]

I have not received any further lan messages in the system logs on the NAS.

At least one problem less to worry about.

On the one machine out of 4 that actually succeeded, the backup took a mear 30min for 18GB data, so if I could get all the machines working it would be a great solution...

Maybe this laptop is better located in relation to the router and/or further away from any disturbances?

...I'm really loosing faith here in wireless connections, I'm also finding the new Netgear rather glitchy in maintaining wireless connection.

Have you checked the radio environment? Maybe it's busy and there are other networks using the same channel so a change of channel could improve the situation?

Also, you're not running backup on multiple machines concurrently are you? Since wireless is a shared media they will compete for the available bandwidth.

Wondering if I would be better off using static IPs as oppose to DCHP.......

If the machines lose the connection frequently they will reconnect a little faster but DHCP shouldn't be a problem here so I'm afraid it won't improve the situation much. You really need to solve the problem with the dropped connections.

[vards01]

Location is all very similar. Some weeks machines backup fine, sometimes fail......no real logic.

I have found that running a map network drive command/script pre backup has resulted in a 100% backup rate, this was yesterday evening. Acronis does have the function to address network location via username and password within but I am suspect that the time delay may result in failure, showing the network location not available error....

I am using 2.4 / 5 on machines 50 / 50 split.......or do you mean b / g / n channels?

[P3R]

I have found that running a map network drive command/script pre backup has resulted in a 100% backup rate, this was yesterday evening. Acronis does have the function to address network location via username and password within but I am suspect that the time delay may result in failure, showing the network location not available error....

Yes since you also told us that your disks does spin down, maybe if Acronis have a very short timeout it will report the connection as failed before the disks are spun up and the NAS is able to respond? Check if there is a network timeout to adjust in Acronis. Another workaround than the one you're using now (which should be fine) is to disable disk spindown on the NAS.

...or do you mean b / g / n channels?

Yes. If other nearby wireless routers use the same (or adjacent) channels you will get interference. Also microwaves, cordless phones and other things can cause problems.

[vards01]

Where is the disable disk spin down function?

[P3R]

Untick the hard disk standby option at System Administration, Hardware settings.

If that doesn't work for some reason you can enable the WINS server on the Advanced Options tab on the Network Services, Microsoft Networking settings page.
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[vards01]

Still having problems with the backup......same message network location unavailable.

I am now thinking of ditching Acronis.....trying windows backup instead.

[sbresin]

hi
As you may change your bakcup software, you should consider Rsync, which is really fast for incremental backup and is well supported by qnap. No need of main backup server, just create backup jobs on each laptop, which send datas directly to NAS.
s

[vards01]

Does R sync do full backups? I want to keep 3 weeks of full backups on the NAS and delete full backups older than this. Also running a script to shut down the laptop once backup is complete. I have been using Acronis which I paid for 8 user licenses......their help is pretty useless so I'm looking for a solution that works and is free ideally.

[sbresin]

Does R sync do full backups?

yes, it does.

I want to keep 3 weeks of full backups on the NAS and delete full backups older than this.

personnaly I myself created 3 different jobs to achieve that. Their might be some rsync options to keep versions of backups.

Also running a script to shut down the laptop once backup is complete.

to shut computer down with windows script shall not be a problem, can't tell you how though

I have been using Acronis which I paid for 8 user licenses......their help is pretty useless so I'm looking for a solution that works and is free ideally.

The main advantage of Acronis is of course the windows interface but also the possibility to manage backups from a server. Rsync main advantage is the performance and its free.

If you need more infos, you'd rather open a new topic on the remote replication section.

cheers
s

[vards01]

I had a failure on one of the machines again last night.......seems the wirless connection fails and requires a restart to reconnect to the router........

Almost as though the backup software / volume of data is causing the wireless connect to fail.

Does anyone know if the QNAP software can be configured to delete files older than a certain date? This is yet another feature in acronis which does not work, so having to seek alternate methods of achieving this.

I have looked at RSYNC which is Deltacopy on windows from what I can establish, not sure if this is what I am looking for as the configuration appears that you have to install on a server, is it possible to install this on the QNAP?

[sbresin]

I have looked at RSYNC which is Deltacopy on windows from what I can establish, not sure if this is what I am looking for as the configuration appears that you have to install on a server, is it possible to install this on the QNAP?

rsync server is installed on the nas already

[vards01]

Is there any instructions on how to configure rsync on the NAS......to copy from workstation to specified folder on the NAS?
I have tried to enter the network address on delta copy, just seems to hang. Is there any special requirements on the NAS to configure before running client side? Any help much appreciated.

Thanks - Ian