Backup not including .Qsync folders
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Backup not including .Qsync folders
Hi,
I make a NAS-NAS backup on the homes-folder that amongst other includes the users qsync folders. All other files and folders are copied but not the .Qsync.
Does anyone have a sollution for this? Or why its not copied?
/Johan
I make a NAS-NAS backup on the homes-folder that amongst other includes the users qsync folders. All other files and folders are copied but not the .Qsync.
Does anyone have a sollution for this? Or why its not copied?
/Johan
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Re: Backup not including .Qsync folders
By design:johanahlrik wrote:Hi,
I make a NAS-NAS backup on the homes-folder that amongst other includes the users qsync folders. All other files and folders are copied but not the .Qsync.
Does anyone have a sollution for this? Or why its not copied?
/Johan
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grep 'veto files' /etc/config/smb.conf
veto files = /.AppleDB/.AppleDouble/.AppleDesktop/:2eDS_Store/Network Trash Folder/Temporary Items/TheVolumeSettingsFolder/.@__thumb/.@__desc/:2e*/.@__qini/.Qsync/.upload_cache/.qsync/.qsync_sn/
delete veto files = yes
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Re: Backup not including .Qsync folders
Thanks, problem solved.
As i looked into this and fiddled with sambas config. I discovered that the files probably was copied and i didnt see it because file station on my recieving NAS didnt show hidden files and folders.
Anyway, if youre going to edit the smb.conf i discovered that it is generated by smb at startup so if you change it smb just Changes it back. To change the 'veto files' you need to edit /etc/default_config/veto_file.conf and then restart samba "/etc/init.d/smb.sh restart".
After the restart i could see the qsync folder in backupmanager.
/Johan
As i looked into this and fiddled with sambas config. I discovered that the files probably was copied and i didnt see it because file station on my recieving NAS didnt show hidden files and folders.
Anyway, if youre going to edit the smb.conf i discovered that it is generated by smb at startup so if you change it smb just Changes it back. To change the 'veto files' you need to edit /etc/default_config/veto_file.conf and then restart samba "/etc/init.d/smb.sh restart".
After the restart i could see the qsync folder in backupmanager.
/Johan
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Re: Backup not including .Qsync folders
Lets hope there are no nasty side-effects from this unsupported change.johanahlrik wrote:Thanks, problem solved.
As i looked into this and fiddled with sambas config. I discovered that the files probably was copied and i didnt see it because file station on my recieving NAS didnt show hidden files and folders.
Anyway, if youre going to edit the smb.conf i discovered that it is generated by smb at startup so if you change it smb just Changes it back. To change the 'veto files' you need to edit /etc/default_config/veto_file.conf and then restart samba "/etc/init.d/smb.sh restart".
After the restart i could see the qsync folder in backupmanager.
/Johan
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Re: Backup not including .Qsync folders
Hi Patrick,pwilson wrote:By design:johanahlrik wrote:Hi,
I make a NAS-NAS backup on the homes-folder that amongst other includes the users qsync folders. All other files and folders are copied but not the .Qsync.
Does anyone have a sollution for this? Or why its not copied?
/Johan
Code: Select all
grep 'veto files' /etc/config/smb.conf veto files = /.AppleDB/.AppleDouble/.AppleDesktop/:2eDS_Store/Network Trash Folder/Temporary Items/TheVolumeSettingsFolder/.@__thumb/.@__desc/:2e*/.@__qini/.Qsync/.upload_cache/.qsync/.qsync_sn/ delete veto files = yes
Appreciate that this thread was opened sometime back, however I would appreciate further clarification.
I am hoping that you can help to clarify the understanding around the feature that all the Qsync folders of users are not available for Backup Station source folder selection "by design"; does that mean that user data Qsync-ed from their workstations (Macs, PCs and notebooks) to the NAS (say NAS-1) are not selectable for backup from NAS-1 to NAS-2 or to other external USB drives. So if users were to lose their workstations and NAS-1 is destroyed in a fire, data that had been managed by Qsync services of users on NAS-1 will be loss (if they have excluded or not replicated elsewhere). Is the understand of this scenario correct?
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Re: Backup not including .Qsync folders
When replicating (using RRTR) the homes or some selected homes/user1 homes/user2 ... folders, all the hidden folders will be synced, including the (hidden, for good reasons...) .Qsync folder.
Strange backup concept to pick only the .Qsync folder(s) form the user home shares in my opinion.
Strange backup concept to pick only the .Qsync folder(s) form the user home shares in my opinion.
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Re: Backup not including .Qsync folders
Thanks for pointers and tip. ".Qsync" folder is indeed hidden and contents are synced across during backup. This is also the case for backup to external USB drives which employs qsync process (I noticed) and not the conventional cp process (unless you specifically instruct to, using the USB One Touch Copy feature).schumaku wrote:When replicating (using RRTR) the homes or some selected homes/user1 homes/user2 ... folders, all the hidden folders will be synced, including the (hidden, for good reasons...) .Qsync folder.
Strange backup concept to pick only the .Qsync folder(s) form the user home shares in my opinion.
Cheers!
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Re: Backup not including .Qsync folders
Hey,
Firstl I want to say hello to everyone, because it's my first post on this forum.
According to topic, if I do a NAS backup using NAS deafult tools ( Backup manager) it will also backup my .Qsync folders? Because in explorer I can't see any files in .Qsync.
I'm asking because I need a solution for my scenario: I have a folder with tehcnical drawings. This folder is synchronized with Qsync. Everything works fine, but I have to make backup of this folder. So do I have to make backup of this folder from on of local PC, or I can just backup NAS to a pendrive/external HDD?
Firstl I want to say hello to everyone, because it's my first post on this forum.
According to topic, if I do a NAS backup using NAS deafult tools ( Backup manager) it will also backup my .Qsync folders? Because in explorer I can't see any files in .Qsync.
I'm asking because I need a solution for my scenario: I have a folder with tehcnical drawings. This folder is synchronized with Qsync. Everything works fine, but I have to make backup of this folder. So do I have to make backup of this folder from on of local PC, or I can just backup NAS to a pendrive/external HDD?
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Re: Backup not including .Qsync folders
Hi warmer,warmer wrote:Hey,
Firstl I want to say hello to everyone, because it's my first post on this forum.
According to topic, if I do a NAS backup using NAS deafult tools ( Backup manager) it will also backup my .Qsync folders? Because in explorer I can't see any files in .Qsync.
I'm asking because I need a solution for my scenario: I have a folder with tehcnical drawings. This folder is synchronized with Qsync. Everything works fine, but I have to make backup of this folder. So do I have to make backup of this folder from on of local PC, or I can just backup NAS to a pendrive/external HDD?
Select "Show hidden files" in the File Station settings. The .Qsync folder within "home" folder will show up in the backups.
Cheers!
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Re: Backup not including .Qsync folders
So to be 100% sure, if I make backup of my NAS witch contains .Qsync folder everything will be in this backup?
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Re: Backup not including .Qsync folders
Also wanna quickly add that it'll easier check it using "admin" user, otherwise, a non-admin user will need shared folder permission in order to view or access the contents of the external drive volume mounted to the NAS.
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Re: Backup not including .Qsync folders
No need to take my word for it, check it out yourself. Cheers!
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Re: Backup not including .Qsync folders
It works! Thank you very much guys
EDIT:
What could gone wrong if I get a warning that "nat all folders/files and their attributies are copied"? I checked backup folder and it looks that every file had beed copied.
EDIT:
What could gone wrong if I get a warning that "nat all folders/files and their attributies are copied"? I checked backup folder and it looks that every file had beed copied.
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Re: Backup not including .Qsync folders
Have not encountered this warning, possibly some objects being backed up (assuming you are using the qsync process) are being updated by other PC applications. Difficult to guess from your message. Perhaps appeal to more experienced members to share more information or tips with you.warmer wrote:It works! Thank you very much guys
EDIT:
What could gone wrong if I get a warning that "nat all folders/files and their attributies are copied"? I checked backup folder and it looks that every file had beed copied.
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[list]Apple MacBook Pro (Intel), MacBook Air (Intel)
Apple iPad2, iPad mini, iPhone 4s, iPhone 5s, iPhone 6[/list]
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Apple iPad2, iPad mini, iPhone 4s, iPhone 5s, iPhone 6[/list]