Hi friends,
I would like to know, if this device (TS-212P) supports SATA III (6.0 MB/s) mode, because I will buy the new hard drives for it.
I case that box supports SATA II only, I will not to waste a money (to buy more expensive modern drives for SATA III).
I tried to check something, but most known commands like lspci are not supported in actual FW.
More over : exists some test, how to check it directly in device ? Some other commands (when lspci did not work) ?
TS-212P SATA interface speed
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Re: TS-212P SATA interface speed
There is no need to overthink this as SATA 3 Gbit/s isn't a bottleneck and disks are compatible anyway. It's CPU and RAM that will limit the performance.
Choose whatever disks are listed on the compatibility list. This is important so don't try to cheap out buying unlisted disks! In addition I also recommend searching this forum for user reports on a specific disk model when you have found a possible candidate.
Btw, TS-212P is specified as having a SATA 3 Gbit/s (SATA II) interface. Then again there are actually examples of certain Qnap models that have a SATA 6 Gbit/s interface but that are specified to have SATA 3 Gbit/s for product differentiating reasons...
Again, the SATA interface isn't the bottleneck!
Choose whatever disks are listed on the compatibility list. This is important so don't try to cheap out buying unlisted disks! In addition I also recommend searching this forum for user reports on a specific disk model when you have found a possible candidate.
Btw, TS-212P is specified as having a SATA 3 Gbit/s (SATA II) interface. Then again there are actually examples of certain Qnap models that have a SATA 6 Gbit/s interface but that are specified to have SATA 3 Gbit/s for product differentiating reasons...
Again, the SATA interface isn't the bottleneck!
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
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Re: TS-212P SATA interface speed
Thanks, I expected it ... Concerning the disk: I choosed WD2000FYYZ (WD RE4 WD2000FYYZ 2TB 7200RPM SATA-6G 64MB), because I read everywhere here that my first solution, it means WD20EFRX (Red NASware 3.0) disks are problematic and the enterprise WD2000FYYZ could be better ...P3R wrote:There is no need to overthink this as SATA 3 Gbit/s isn't a bottleneck and disks are compatible anyway. It's CPU and RAM that will limit the performance.
Choose whatever disks are listed on the compatibility list. This is important so don't try to cheap out buying unlisted disks! In addition I also recommend searching this forum for user reports on a specific disk model when you have found a possible candidate.
Btw, TS-212P is specified as having a SATA 3 Gbit/s (SATA II) interface. Then again there are actually examples of certain Qnap models that have a SATA 6 Gbit/s interface but that are specified to have SATA 3 Gbit/s for product differentiating reasons...
Again, the SATA interface isn't the bottleneck!
Moreover : what You think about this: I ´m planning to buy TS-212P (white model). It will be used only for quality serious BASKUP device, connected via network, BUT it will be most of time switched OFF and only in time of backup will be switched ON. Not to risk some virus comming to the backuped data.
I found somewhere, that exists also a silver model (UMNP00453 ) of this unit named "QNAP TS-212P Turbo NAS server". It is bigger against TS-212P white. 225x102x168.5 /218,4x85x165,5) And it is equipped also eSATA connectors. On the official pages I cannot find info about this silver eSATA version . What is it ?
Is it better than standard TS-212P ?
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Re: TS-212P SATA interface speed
I wouldn't call the WD Red problematic as long as you make sure the disk firmware is updated if old. At least I'm happy with the ones I have. But WD2000FYYZ should be an excellent disk and it comes with a five year warranty.hificek wrote:...I read everywhere here that my first solution, it means WD20EFRX (Red NASware 3.0) disks are problematic and the enterprise WD2000FYYZ could be better ...
Sounds OK.I ´m planning to buy TS-212P (white model). It will be used only for quality serious BASKUP device, connected via network...
There is nothing wrong with powering it down if only used occasionally but it is extremely unlikely that it would be infected with a virus even if always switched on....it will be most of time switched OFF and only in time of backup will be switched ON. Not to risk some virus comming to the backuped data.
I'm aware of no such TS-212P variant. The larger measurements you mention however suggests you're talking about Qnaps larger 2-bay hot-swap chassis, like TS-220 (with eSATA) and other models. Maybe someone had the model name mixed up or something?I found somewhere, that exists also a silver model of this unit named "QNAP TS-212P Turbo NAS server". It is bigger against TS-212P white. 225x102x168.5 /218,4x85x165,5)
And it is equipped also eSATA connectors. On the official pages I cannot find info about this silver eSATA version . What is it ?
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
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Re: TS-212P SATA interface speed
I found some strange model number for it : UMNP00453
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It is depend how it is connected: If will be mapped like a normal drive via SMB protocol, it is viewed for main PC like a normal disk and virus can attack it.P3R wrote:There is nothing wrong with powering it down if only used occasionally but it is extremely unlikely that it would be infected with a virus even if always switched on.
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Re: TS-212P SATA interface speed
With the search results I get on that number It looks like the normal smaller non-hot-swap chassis and I can find no eSATA connector on the pictures. I think someone have given the resellers partly incorrect specifications. Maybe a distributor covering the eastern part of europe mixed it up somewhere?hificek wrote:I found some strange model number for it : UMNP00453
You'd better ask Qnap directly to get to know for sure.
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
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Re: TS-212P SATA interface speed
True, a virus on a client PC could mess data files up but the NAS itself wouldn't be infected.hificek wrote:It is depend how it is connected: If will be mapped like a normal drive via SMB protocol, it is viewed for main PC like a normal disk and virus can attack it.
But you're correct, it is safer to have it switched off.
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!