XP vs Win7 public share issue

[atakacs]

Hi

459 with firmware 3.6.1 (brand new purchase).

I'm having a problem accessing the "public" share on the NAS from our Win7 machines - XP is working fine.

If I type \\mynas on a XP machine I get a list of the shared folders and I can happily double-click on the Public share and start messing around.

With a Windows 7 machine if I type \\mynas I get a user / pass prompt - same network, same "simple" WORKGROUP setup...

What's the story ?!

[TheFax]

Same problem...

[schumaku]

Any changes applied to the Public share access rights, diverting from the default settings? Please post a screenshot of the Access Right Management >> Folder Permissions -> Public -> [Folder Permissions].

Have granted the access rights for the other shares to an useraccount/usergroup on the NAS, and able to access from the same Windows 7 computers? This is done preferable using the same credentials as in place for the desktop login, with the same username and password. Asuming you are already using a password for the Windows 7 login - when it comes to networking, this is mandatory due to various reasons anyway.

[TheFax]

Thankyou schumaku for your answer and your help.

Any changes applied to the Public share access rights, diverting from the default settings? Please post a screenshot of the Access Right Management >> Folder Permissions -> Public -> [Folder Permissions].

Link to the screenshot:
http://i49.tinypic.com/291jjvl.jpg

Have granted the access rights for the other shares to an useraccount/usergroup on the NAS, and able to access from the same Windows 7 computers? This is done preferable using the same credentials as in place for the desktop login, with the same username and password. Asuming you are already using a password for the Windows 7 login - when it comes to networking, this is mandatory due to various reasons anyway.

I'm not using password for my Windows 7 account, because my NAS and my computer are installed in my home.
-If using a password is preferred, I prefer to not use it.
-if using a password is mandatory, I will start use it.

OTHER INFORMATIONS ABOUT MY PROBLEM
When I bought the NAS, all works perfectly: I had access to public folder without any kind of password.
After this, I made some configurations on the NAS:
1) Added a shared folder (called "Backup")
2) Copied some files into "Backup" folder
3) Added a new user (called "fabiuz") in administration group
4) Denied access of guest for "Backup" folder
My intention was to make the Backup folder readable/writable only by "fabiuz" user and "admin" user.
The problem is born after these steps.

(sorry for my english: this is not my mother tongue)

[doktornotor]

Well, without password, it simply will not work. You cannot have passwordless users on Linux. Not to mention that this is extremely bad practice on Windows as well. (If you are way too lazy to type your password, then kindly set an automatic logon instead in Windows.) And since you disabled the guest access, there is no way for your user account to log you on to the share.

[TheFax]

The guest access is disabled only in "Backup" directory, and not in the "Public" directory. The topic was opened speaking about a problem on the "Public" folder.

In any case, thankyou for your help doktornotor. I will try to add a password on my windows account, and see if it works.

[doktornotor]

And to avoid further trouble, make the usernames and passwords the same on WIndows and on QNAP.

[TheFax]

I tried to add a password on Windows: it works perfectly. (the username and the password must be the same on Windows and on NAS).
I found also an alternative solution: if you are allergic to passwords, you can add a "credential" on Windows Credential Manager, in the control panel.

So, summarizing, if your QNAP ask you a password when you try to browse it (file:\\QNAP), remember to add a password to Windows account (the safest solution) or add a credential on Windows Credential Manager (the most practical solution, but less secure).

Remember that we are speaking about Windows 7. I didn't try these solutions on other versions of Windows.

Thankyou for your help.
---TheFax---

[schumaku]

I found also an alternative solution: if you are allergic to password, you can add a "credential" on Windows Credential Manager, in the control panel.

The credentails manager will not store passwords longer than the current session if the windows login is not protected, ie. ... by a password.

[atakacs]

So there is no way to setup a completely open file share on a QNAP ?

In other word a place where anyone connected to the LAN can read / write / delete files (within the assigned storage quota). No question asked, no password, completely open, for anyone on the LAN, even for machines not joined to the domain or non WinTel OS (Mac or Linux clients)...

I can do that with Windows 2008 R2 server... surprised I can't replicate that "feature" (however dump you might find it).

[doktornotor]

Sigh. The "completely open" is the guest account you have just disabled - apparently since it is unsuitable for everyone to be able to wipe your backups. There is the Guest Access Right dropdown box for this. If you want an "anonymous" "completely open" share, then use anonymous FTP. Not Samba!

P.S. I would rather not comment on a passwordless W2K8 server.

[atakacs]

> The "completely open" is the guest account you have just disabled

You might have me confused with some other poster. Anyway...

As for the server it is obviously not password-less, just a specific share with a specific disk quota.

[schumaku]

No clue what goes mad....

- Several NAS (ARM, x86, without and with Advanced Ffolder Permissions, with and without quotas), default Public share (Guest Access Right: Full access, everyone: read+write, admin: read+write)
- Windows 7 (up-to-date), local user account without password, local user account with password (both unknown and non-existing on the NAS)

-> No problem to access any \\NAS\Public share, able to create folders, upload files,edit filess, upload files, .. - never asked for a username/password.

[TheFax]

I found also an alternative solution: if you are allergic to password, you can add a "credential" on Windows Credential Manager, in the control panel.

The credentails manager will not store passwords longer than the current session if the windows login is not protected, ie. ... by a password.

It's not true. I can confirm that the credential I added yesterday, is already present and working on my Windows 7, after a complete reboot.

[schumaku]

Well - it's a common source of unexpeced isues and problems - don't use it- so you have no issues ever.