Running without RAID
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Running without RAID
I have a TS-253 PRO. Id like to run this without Raid. I would just like to use it for a mass network storage device. Is this possible?
I can't seem to find a setting to be able to do this.
Any help is appreciated
I can't seem to find a setting to be able to do this.
Any help is appreciated
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Re: Running without RAID
You would use JBOD. If one drive fails, you may be able to recover information from the other drive. If you're not using redundancy why not use raid0 for the performance gain? You need a backup in either case.
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Re: Running without RAID
Do you know how I can select Raid0 on it?
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Re: Running without RAID
Access QTS via a web browser with the 2 disks in the NAS. Go to storage manager > Click “New Storage Pool”, select disks and a RAID group type, and click “Apply” to create new storage pools. You want to select raid 0 as the raid group type. After that you should be good to go. This will delete anything that is on the drives.
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Re: Running without RAID
Whether you use JBOD or Raid0, if one drive fails .... everything is gone. Only Raid 1, 10, 5 or 6 has redundancy.
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Re: Running without RAID
Thank you. Im sure when I first set it up I looked for a raid 0 option but didnt notice it. I shall try it again tonight. I know there is no redundancy with this but that is fine for what I am using this for. Storage capacity is what is required. If I loose information on this set of discs doesnt matter. Highly sensitive information is stored elsewhere. If I have 4 3TB drives it gives me 12TB. If I have it in Raid 5 it will give me 9TB wont it? Maybe thats not as bad as i thought!
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Re: Running without RAID
Maybe because it's a disk configuration that Qnap don't wan't to encourage, as few users really understands the consequences of it?brettbert wrote:Im sure when I first set it up I looked for a raid 0 option but didnt notice it.
Okay, remember that you said this when either of the four disks fails and you need to reinstall the complete NAS from scratch...I know there is no redundancy with this but that is fine for what I am using this for.
Correct, sort of. It's actually more like 10.8 TB usable storage.If I have 4 3TB drives it gives me 12TB.
Correct, sort of. It's actually more like 8.1 TB usable storage.If I have it in Raid 5 it will give me 9TB wont it?
Edit: I can't read properly sometimes so unfortunately my incorrect previous answer was based on 4 TB disks, not the 3 TB disks that was asked about. I have now edited my post to be correct for 3 TB disks. I'm very sorry about that mistake.
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RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
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Re: Running without RAID
You have a 253, which can only have two drives. Where would you put the other two?brettbert wrote:If I have 4 3TB drives it gives me 12TB. If I have it in Raid 5 it will give me 9TB wont it? Maybe thats not as bad as i thought!
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Re: Running without RAID
Sorry I have a TS-453 Pro 4 disk unit
I will just run Raid 5 Take the loss of the storage.
I will just run Raid 5 Take the loss of the storage.
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Re: Running without RAID
You could just run them as individual disks, rather than any form of RAID. I do this with a TS-212 that I just use as a backup target for my main TS-451. That way, if an individual drive fails, I don't lose everything as I would running JBOD. I just map the backup shares to the relevant volumes to spread the utilisation across the two volumes.
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Re: Running without RAID
If the first single disk volume fails the whole NAS will become unavailable. Any other single disk volumes then cannot be reused in the NAS without reinitialization and loss of data.browellm wrote:You could just run them as individual disks, rather than any form of RAID.
The only way to access data on the additional single disk volumes that I'm aware of would be to mount it in a computer able to read the ext4 file system.
Each additional single disk volume means more administration with spreading the data over all volumes.
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
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Re: Running without RAID
Appreciate that, but as this NAS acts purely as backup (really just 2x2TB USB disks but on the network), the ability to extract a disk and place it in a USB dock to recover the files is better than nothing.P3R wrote:If the first single disk volume fails the whole NAS will become unavailable. Any other single disk volumes then cannot be reused in the NAS without reinitialization and loss of data.browellm wrote:You could just run them as individual disks, rather than any form of RAID.
The only way to access data on the additional single disk volumes that I'm aware of would be to mount it in a computer able to read the ext4 file system.
Each additional single disk volume means more administration with spreading the data over all volumes.
The extra admin is marginal for me, because I'm only backing up three shares and each fits on a single volume. I do understand it's not going to be that simple for some.
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Re: Running without RAID
Yes as long as one is aware of and accept the consequences, it's a perfectly valid configuration. Especially for a pure backup destination.browellm wrote:Appreciate that, but as this NAS acts purely as backup (really just 2x2TB USB disks but on the network), the ability to extract a disk and place it in a USB dock to recover the files is better than nothing.
Agreed, two single disk volumes is probably okay to manage for most people but the OP would have four of them to juggle. In no way impossible of course but more work.I do understand it's not going to be that simple for some.
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!