Volume larger than 16TB (859)

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Re: Volume larger than 16TB (859)

Postby delos » Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:54 am

Still I am asking myself if I can remove single volumes to install them in an external USB case and later copy the content back to the 8*3TB qnap.
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Re: Volume larger than 16TB (859)

Postby P3R » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:03 am

delos wrote:Still I am asking myself if I can remove single volumes to install them in an external USB case and later copy the content back to the 8*3TB qnap.
Yes, that should be possible.
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Re: Volume larger than 16TB (859)

Postby delos » Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:22 am

Thanks. I tried today. I removed my three single volumes from the qnap and attached one vie the external eSATA port. Thoug, all I can find on the hard disk is confi files/directories. No data. What happened here?

/EDIT:
I now attached the drive to my computer. Obviously the drive contains several partitions which I see. The folders I had are also visible. Though, they are empty.
Is there a way to mount the partitions when the drive is attached to the qnap e.g. in telnet?


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Re: Volume larger than 16TB (859)

Postby P3R » Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:22 am

You asked about USB and that I know work. I do expect eSATA to work in a similar way but I have never tried it and my eSATA-enclosure is presently tied up elsewhere so I can't test that.

Anyway when an internal Qnap-disk is connected externally with USB it is connected as four different disks because it contains four different partitions: USBDisk1, USBDisk2, USBDisk3 and USBDisk4.

Your data is in USBDisk3 (maybe eSATADisk3 for you?) and you could use Web File Manager to copy the files to the huge RAID-volume. If you want to login with a different user than admin, you'll have to adjust the permissions on the share USBDisk3 first to make it visible for that specific user.
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Re: Volume larger than 16TB (859)

Postby sorhol » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:08 pm

I guess the ability to expand beyond 16TB was NOT included in 3.7.2, at least I could not see it mentioned in the release note.

Does anybody know if this will come in next version of the firmware?
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Re: Volume larger than 16TB (859)

Postby delos » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:32 pm

P3R wrote:You asked about USB and that I know work. I do expect eSATA to work in a similar way but I have never tried it and my eSATA-enclosure is presently tied up elsewhere so I can't test that.

Yes, I asked about USB but then I found an eSATA case at work which I thought would be faster.

P3R wrote:Anyway when an internal Qnap-disk is connected externally with USB it is connected as four different disks because it contains four different partitions: USBDisk1, USBDisk2, USBDisk3 and USBDisk4.

You are absolutely right. It works with USB and I got the disks 2, 4 and 5. My data seems to be on 5.
So the result is that esata doesn't mount all partions of an external disk but USB does.

Thanks for your help!

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Re: Volume larger than 16TB (859)

Postby TomasF » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:31 pm

TomasF wrote:Now tech support is telling me it'll be in 3.7.3, while Patrick Wilson obviously has a reason to believe it would be in 3.7.2... I'm downloading 3.7.2 now, so I guess we'll just have to try ourselves


Well, 3.7.3 is now out and not a word about this in the release notes. This is getting VERY disappointing :(
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Re: Volume larger than 16TB (859)

Postby sorhol » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:06 pm

I asked support and this was the reply I got:

Dear customer

I got your support request ticket.

I'm sorry, but I don't have the schedule now.
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Re: Volume larger than 16TB (859)

Postby White-Rabbit » Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:14 am

Hello

Got the same issue with 3x3To disk Raid 5

Could not reboot my qnap

any possibiliies to get my data back ?

EXT3-fs (md9): using internal journal
EXT3-fs (md9): mounted filesystem with writeback data mode
active port 0 :139
active port 1 :445
active port 2 :20
md: bind<sda2>
raid1: raid set md4 active with 1 out of 1 mirrors
md4: detected capacity change from 0 to 542769152
md4: unknown partition table
Adding 530040k swap on /dev/md4. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:530040k
md: bind<sdb2>
RAID1 conf printout:
--- wd:1 rd:2
disk 0, wo:0, o:1, dev:sda2
disk 1, wo:1, o:1, dev:sdb2
md: recovery of RAID array md4
md: minimum _guaranteed_ speed: 5000 KB/sec/disk.
md: using maximum available idle IO bandwidth (but not more than 200000 KB/sec) for recovery.
md: using 128k window, over a total of 530048 blocks.
md: bind<sdc2>
md: md0 stopped.
md: md0 stopped.
md: bind<sdb3>
md: bind<sdc3>
md: bind<sda3>
raid5: device sda3 operational as raid disk 0
raid5: device sdc3 operational as raid disk 2
raid5: device sdb3 operational as raid disk 1
raid5: allocated 50864kB for md0
0: w=1 pa=0 pr=3 m=1 a=2 r=3 op1=0 op2=0
2: w=2 pa=0 pr=3 m=1 a=2 r=3 op1=0 op2=0
1: w=3 pa=0 pr=3 m=1 a=2 r=3 op1=0 op2=0
raid5: raid level 5 set md0 active with 3 out of 3 devices, algorithm 2
RAID5 conf printout:
--- rd:3 wd:3
disk 0, o:1, dev:sda3
disk 1, o:1, dev:sdb3
disk 2, o:1, dev:sdc3
md0: detected capacity change from 0 to 5997972553728
md0: unknown partition table
EXT4-fs (md0): ext4_check_descriptors: Checksum for group 14720 failed (29459!=33064)
EXT4-fs (md0): group descriptors corrupted!
md: md4: recovery done.
RAID1 conf printout:
--- wd:2 rd:2
disk 0, wo:0, o:1, dev:sda2
disk 1, wo:0, o:1, dev:sdb2
e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: RX/TX
e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: RX/TX
active port 0 :139
active port 1 :445
active port 2 :20
warning: `proftpd' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use)
daemon_mgr[5312]: segfault at 74696e65 ip b724eda9 sp bfee85d4 error 4 in libc-2.6.1.so[b71e7000+12e000]
rule type=2, num=1
Loading iSCSI transport class v2.0-871.
iscsi: registered transport (tcp)
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Re: Volume larger than 16TB (859)

Postby White-Rabbit » Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:08 pm

Thanks QNAP Support who helped me via teamviewer !

Don't regrets my buy !

Congrats !
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