Recovering RAID5 with missing superblocks
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Recovering RAID5 with missing superblocks
Hi all,
Yesterday, my 869 PRO rebooted itself with 2 disks shown as missing in the storage manager.
I had seen one disk missing before, with the solution being to eject the drive, reboot and insert it again - this time it did not help.
Troubleshooting a lot over the night, yielded a somewhat cause for this behaviour. Seems that 5 of 8 drives have missing superblock.
Running e2fsck with a backup superblock has taken over 20 hours now, and I am not sure it will fix anything.
I CAN still assemble and mount the array, but i am unsure how valid the data is now.
How can i proceed to get my data up and running? At least to do a backup and then recreate the array.
Any help is much appreciated
P.S. I have already submitted a request to QNAP support, but seeing as this is a weekend, I am not expecting a reply before tomorrow.
Yesterday, my 869 PRO rebooted itself with 2 disks shown as missing in the storage manager.
I had seen one disk missing before, with the solution being to eject the drive, reboot and insert it again - this time it did not help.
Troubleshooting a lot over the night, yielded a somewhat cause for this behaviour. Seems that 5 of 8 drives have missing superblock.
Running e2fsck with a backup superblock has taken over 20 hours now, and I am not sure it will fix anything.
I CAN still assemble and mount the array, but i am unsure how valid the data is now.
How can i proceed to get my data up and running? At least to do a backup and then recreate the array.
Any help is much appreciated
P.S. I have already submitted a request to QNAP support, but seeing as this is a weekend, I am not expecting a reply before tomorrow.
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Re: Recovering RAID5 with missing superblocks
You sure you want our help.... You have a strange way of asking for help....mikkelsj wrote:Hi all,
Yesterday, my 869 PRO rebooted itself with 2 disks shown as missing in the storage manager.
I had seen one disk missing before, with the solution being to eject the drive, reboot and insert it again - this time it did not help.
Troubleshooting a lot over the night, yielded a somewhat cause for this behaviour. Seems that 5 of 8 drives have missing superblock.
Running e2fsck with a backup superblock has taken over 20 hours now, and I am not sure it will fix anything.
I CAN still assemble and mount the array, but i am unsure how valid the data is now.
How can i proceed to get my data up and running? At least to do a backup and then recreate the array.
Any help is much appreciated
P.S. I have already submitted a request to QNAP support, but seeing as this is a weekend, I am not expecting a reply before tomorrow.
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Re: Recovering RAID5 with missing superblocks
Easy now, all you have to do is ask...pwilson wrote:
You sure you want our help.... You have a strange way of asking for help....
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Firmware is 4.0.2.
Harddrives are WD Green 2TB.
Drive configuration is RAID5.
This is output of mdadm -D:
/dev/md0:
Version : 00.90.03
Creation Time : Wed Aug 10 21:41:21 2011
Raid Level : raid5
Array Size : 13663619200 (13030.64 GiB 13991.55 GB)
Used Dev Size : 1951945600 (1861.52 GiB 1998.79 GB)
Raid Devices : 8
Total Devices : 8
Preferred Minor : 0
Persistence : Superblock is persistent
Intent Bitmap : Internal
Update Time : Sun Nov 17 18:23:44 2013
State : active
Active Devices : 8
Working Devices : 8
Failed Devices : 0
Spare Devices : 0
Layout : left-symmetric
Chunk Size : 64K
UUID : 1708ac76:d56fdf46:915c1d7d:42b8c178
Events : 0.11368539
Number Major Minor RaidDevice State
0 8 3 0 active sync /dev/sda3
1 8 19 1 active sync /dev/sdb3
2 8 35 2 active sync /dev/sdc3
3 8 51 3 active sync /dev/sdd3
4 8 83 4 active sync /dev/sdf3
5 8 67 5 active sync /dev/sde3
6 8 115 6 active sync /dev/sdh3
7 8 99 7 active sync /dev/sdg3
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Re: Recovering RAID5 with missing superblocks
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Last edited by teracow on Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:06 pm, edited 2 times in total.
I (like many others) have left this forum due to the incompetence of QNAP staff.
I have now completed deletion of all my posts (how-to's, images, hand-written instructions, on-the-fly user manuals, etc..). These are now gone.
I am not interested in assisting QNAP any further when they won't assist me. Anyone unlucky enough to have dealt with Adong Lin (QNAP Systems Inc.) or the blundering incompetence of the 'live chat' specialist AJ Lee will know what I mean. Adong doesn't understand the first thing about basic computer interoperability and AJ disconnects you from live chat when he doesn't want to deal with your problem.
I will not support QNAP any further. Far from it - I will now be recommending a competitor's hardware instead. I'm done.
I have now completed deletion of all my posts (how-to's, images, hand-written instructions, on-the-fly user manuals, etc..). These are now gone.
I am not interested in assisting QNAP any further when they won't assist me. Anyone unlucky enough to have dealt with Adong Lin (QNAP Systems Inc.) or the blundering incompetence of the 'live chat' specialist AJ Lee will know what I mean. Adong doesn't understand the first thing about basic computer interoperability and AJ disconnects you from live chat when he doesn't want to deal with your problem.
I will not support QNAP any further. Far from it - I will now be recommending a competitor's hardware instead. I'm done.
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Re: Recovering RAID5 with missing superblocks
Sorry, they are Seagate - green thoughteracow wrote:This is a little vague...mikkelsj wrote:Harddrives are WD Green 2TB.
Please login via SSH as "admin" and run the following to identify your drives:Please post the output back here.Code: Select all
echo ; hdparm -i /dev/sd[a-z] 2>/dev/null | grep -E "Model|/dev/" | sed -e ':a; /:$/ { N; s/:\n/ ,/; ba; }' | sed 's/Model=//;s/FwRev=//;s/ */\ /g' | awk 'BEGIN { FS=","; printf "%-15s %-30s%s\n", "device ID", "make \& model", "firmware version" ; printf "%-15s %-30s%s\n", "--------------", "----------------------------", "---------------" } ; { printf "%-15s%-30s%s\n",$1,$2,$3 }' ; echo
/dev/sda ST2000DL003-9VT166 CC32
/dev/sdb ST2000DL003-9VT166 CC32
/dev/sdc ST2000DL003-9VT166 CC32
/dev/sdd ST2000DL003-9VT166 CC32
/dev/sde ST2000DL003-9VT166 CC3C
/dev/sdf ST2000DL003-9VT166 CC3C
/dev/sdg ST2000DL003-9VT166 CC3C
/dev/sdh ST2000DL003-9VT166 CC3C
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Re: Recovering RAID5 with missing superblocks
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Last edited by teracow on Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I (like many others) have left this forum due to the incompetence of QNAP staff.
I have now completed deletion of all my posts (how-to's, images, hand-written instructions, on-the-fly user manuals, etc..). These are now gone.
I am not interested in assisting QNAP any further when they won't assist me. Anyone unlucky enough to have dealt with Adong Lin (QNAP Systems Inc.) or the blundering incompetence of the 'live chat' specialist AJ Lee will know what I mean. Adong doesn't understand the first thing about basic computer interoperability and AJ disconnects you from live chat when he doesn't want to deal with your problem.
I will not support QNAP any further. Far from it - I will now be recommending a competitor's hardware instead. I'm done.
I have now completed deletion of all my posts (how-to's, images, hand-written instructions, on-the-fly user manuals, etc..). These are now gone.
I am not interested in assisting QNAP any further when they won't assist me. Anyone unlucky enough to have dealt with Adong Lin (QNAP Systems Inc.) or the blundering incompetence of the 'live chat' specialist AJ Lee will know what I mean. Adong doesn't understand the first thing about basic computer interoperability and AJ disconnects you from live chat when he doesn't want to deal with your problem.
I will not support QNAP any further. Far from it - I will now be recommending a competitor's hardware instead. I'm done.
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Re: Recovering RAID5 with missing superblocks
Well thanks - but that **teracow wrote:Your drives are Not Recommended./dev/sda ST2000DL003-9VT166 CC32
You will continue having trouble with those drives as they are known to have issues. You may not be able to recover that unit. This is why backups should be performed regularly. No good trying to recover the array so you can perform a backup.
When were these drives added to the "not recommended"-list?
I bought mine about a year ago and do not seem to remember them being there.
Very convenient of QNAP to add some of the most used drives to the list, AFTER users have been having issues...
How difficult would it be to recover the RAID? Including data recovery services.
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Re: Recovering RAID5 with missing superblocks
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I (like many others) have left this forum due to the incompetence of QNAP staff.
I have now completed deletion of all my posts (how-to's, images, hand-written instructions, on-the-fly user manuals, etc..). These are now gone.
I am not interested in assisting QNAP any further when they won't assist me. Anyone unlucky enough to have dealt with Adong Lin (QNAP Systems Inc.) or the blundering incompetence of the 'live chat' specialist AJ Lee will know what I mean. Adong doesn't understand the first thing about basic computer interoperability and AJ disconnects you from live chat when he doesn't want to deal with your problem.
I will not support QNAP any further. Far from it - I will now be recommending a competitor's hardware instead. I'm done.
I have now completed deletion of all my posts (how-to's, images, hand-written instructions, on-the-fly user manuals, etc..). These are now gone.
I am not interested in assisting QNAP any further when they won't assist me. Anyone unlucky enough to have dealt with Adong Lin (QNAP Systems Inc.) or the blundering incompetence of the 'live chat' specialist AJ Lee will know what I mean. Adong doesn't understand the first thing about basic computer interoperability and AJ disconnects you from live chat when he doesn't want to deal with your problem.
I will not support QNAP any further. Far from it - I will now be recommending a competitor's hardware instead. I'm done.
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Re: Recovering RAID5 with missing superblocks
mikkelsj wrote:When were these drives added to the "not recommended"-list?teracow wrote:Your drives are Not Recommended./dev/sda ST2000DL003-9VT166 CC32
You will continue having trouble with those drives as they are known to have issues. You may not be able to recover that unit. This is why backups should be performed regularly. No good trying to recover the array so you can perform a backup.
They have been non-recommended since at least 2010.
I'd recommend always checking the QNAP 3.5" HDD Compatibility List before purchasing your drives going forward. It is makes you feel any better I made the same mistake - I too owned 4 of these horrible Seagate ST2000DL003 drives. Since replacing them with recommended drives from the list, I have not experienced any further issues.mikkelsj wrote:I bought mine about a year ago and do not seem to remember them being there.
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Re: Recovering RAID5 with missing superblocks
What 2 drive bays are showing as missing?mikkelsj wrote:Hi all,
Yesterday, my 869 PRO rebooted itself with 2 disks shown as missing in the storage manager.
I had seen one disk missing before, with the solution being to eject the drive, reboot and insert it again - this time it did not help.
Troubleshooting a lot over the night, yielded a somewhat cause for this behaviour. Seems that 5 of 8 drives have missing superblock.
Running e2fsck with a backup superblock has taken over 20 hours now, and I am not sure it will fix anything.
I CAN still assemble and mount the array, but i am unsure how valid the data is now.
The reason I ask is that from what you have described it is highly unlikely the issue is related to the specific drives as others have suggested and much more likely to be related to an issue a couple of us have had. In every case, two drives disappear.
See http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=87089 and http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=142&t=83730
If this is what is happening on yours then it validates that this is likely a firmware issue and not a drive issue! Get in contact with QNAP official support.
For those who can't extend their focus behind drive model, have you actually considered the chances of 2 drives missing at the exact same time on reboot, that were working before? The chances due to simultaneous drive failure, where they were working fine before is infinitesimally small.
It would appear that this particular issue relates specifically to the 869 pro model more than anything else.
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Thanks for the insigts!adprom wrote: What 2 drive bays are showing as missing?
The reason I ask is that from what you have described it is highly unlikely the issue is related to the specific drives as others have suggested and much more likely to be related to an issue a couple of us have had. In every case, two drives disappear.
See http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=87089 and http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=142&t=83730
If this is what is happening on yours then it validates that this is likely a firmware issue and not a drive issue! Get in contact with QNAP official support.
For those who can't extend their focus behind drive model, have you actually considered the chances of 2 drives missing at the exact same time on reboot, that were working before? The chances due to simultaneous drive failure, where they were working fine before is infinitesimally small.
It would appear that this particular issue relates specifically to the 869 pro model more than anything else.
For me, it was drives 7 and 8 though.
Tried my former approach of ejecting, rebooting and inserting again - this made the raid, disks and volume disappear for the WebGUI.
Running dmesg just shows a lot of segfaults, as well as sunning config_util and storage_boot_init manually.
In relation to FW, i was wondering why it said to upgrade to 4.0.4 one day, and the next it didn't. Did QNAP retract it? Any others notice this?
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Re: Recovering RAID5 with missing superblocks
That's interesting. That is in line with what we are seeing where it is always consecutive drive bays which is consistent with what myself and the other poster saw. Yes, 4.0.4 was retracted.mikkelsj wrote: For me, it was drives 7 and 8 though.
Tried my former approach of ejecting, rebooting and inserting again - this made the raid, disks and volume disappear for the WebGUI.
Running dmesg just shows a lot of segfaults, as well as sunning config_util and storage_boot_init manually.
In relation to FW, i was wondering why it said to upgrade to 4.0.4 one day, and the next it didn't. Did QNAP retract it? Any others notice this?
Definitely contact qnap support.
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Re: Recovering RAID5 with missing superblocks
A short update: I managed to get the RAID shown in the WebGUI, by deleting the contents of /etc/raidtab and /etc/config/mdmadm.conf and rebooting(of course with a backup, as per QNAP's own guide: http://unofficialqnapsupport.net/?page_id=1336)adprom wrote:That's interesting. That is in line with what we are seeing where it is always consecutive drive bays which is consistent with what myself and the other poster saw. Yes, 4.0.4 was retracted.mikkelsj wrote: For me, it was drives 7 and 8 though.
Tried my former approach of ejecting, rebooting and inserting again - this made the raid, disks and volume disappear for the WebGUI.
Running dmesg just shows a lot of segfaults, as well as sunning config_util and storage_boot_init manually.
In relation to FW, i was wondering why it said to upgrade to 4.0.4 one day, and the next it didn't. Did QNAP retract it? Any others notice this?
Definitely contact qnap support.
Still getting missing drives 7 and 8 from the RAID, but running a bad blocks scan now on the one disk that shows in physical - it worked before.
Any other ideas are still welcome, while i wait for QNAP support.
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Re: Recovering RAID5 with missing superblocks
The only idea is to replace failing drives ASAP instead of pulling them out and back in.
It's not QNAP thinking drives are bad - it's drives not responding or returning errors.
I'd advise you buy new drives and configure new RAID - with 8 drives, I recommend using RAID6 when possible.
It's not QNAP thinking drives are bad - it's drives not responding or returning errors.
I'd advise you buy new drives and configure new RAID - with 8 drives, I recommend using RAID6 when possible.
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