Goodbye community
-
- Guru
- Posts: 13183
- Joined: Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:39 am
- Location: Stockholm, Sweden (UTC+01:00)
Goodbye community
When trying to help people here I sometimes search my own posts for old information and a while ago I noticed that one of my posts had silently been edited by someone:
http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=1 ... 58#p355329
I never added that picture and please note that there is no indication that the post have been edited!
I asked a moderator to check what had happened with my post but was informed that he didn't have the rights to see that. I therefore approached the only person from Qnap that I ever have had any contact with and that is still within the organization, if he could check on this issue or please forward my request to whoever is the administrator. It have now been more than one month without any reply on that PM.
I accept being moderated of course, if it is clear that the post was changed by a moderator or an admin (and preferably with an explanation why) but when my posts are silently changed into having a different message than I intended, I find it totally inacceptable. Who knows what may be added and who knows how many other of my posts have been edited without my consent?
If it was a hobby forum run by teenage geeks, I would at least understand that it could happen but since this is the official forum run by a relatively large manufacturer, I find it extremely unprofessional.
I have always held this forum very high for having some extremely competent participants and for allowing also negative opinions about Qnap. I still think all that is awesome and I probably will be a lurker but what have now happened makes it impossible for me to be able to continue to participate...
I wan't to thank everyone for all the things I have learned and all the fun I had here over the years!
Goodbye
http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=1 ... 58#p355329
I never added that picture and please note that there is no indication that the post have been edited!
I asked a moderator to check what had happened with my post but was informed that he didn't have the rights to see that. I therefore approached the only person from Qnap that I ever have had any contact with and that is still within the organization, if he could check on this issue or please forward my request to whoever is the administrator. It have now been more than one month without any reply on that PM.
I accept being moderated of course, if it is clear that the post was changed by a moderator or an admin (and preferably with an explanation why) but when my posts are silently changed into having a different message than I intended, I find it totally inacceptable. Who knows what may be added and who knows how many other of my posts have been edited without my consent?
If it was a hobby forum run by teenage geeks, I would at least understand that it could happen but since this is the official forum run by a relatively large manufacturer, I find it extremely unprofessional.
I have always held this forum very high for having some extremely competent participants and for allowing also negative opinions about Qnap. I still think all that is awesome and I probably will be a lurker but what have now happened makes it impossible for me to be able to continue to participate...
I wan't to thank everyone for all the things I have learned and all the fun I had here over the years!
Goodbye
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
- doktornotor
- Ask me anything
- Posts: 7472
- Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:44 am
Re: Goodbye community
Sad to see you go... Weird things going on here I'd almost bet the image would be mine, but cannot find it in my local collection.
Still waiting for answer why the Qnology thread has been closed silently. Again, no response. Why am I not surprised?P3R wrote:I therefore approached the only person from Qnap that I ever have had any contact with and that is still within the organization, if he could check on this issue or please forward my request to whoever is the administrator. It have now been more than one month without any reply on that PM.
All the best in future!P3R wrote:Goodbye
I'm gone from this forum till QNAP stop wasting volunteers' time. Get help from QNAP helpdesk instead.
Warning: offensive signature and materials damaging QNAP reputation follow:
QNAP's FW security issues
QNAP's hardware compatibility list madness
QNAP's new logo competition
Dear QNAP, kindly fire your clueless incompetent forum "admin" And while at it, don't forget the webmaster!
Warning: offensive signature and materials damaging QNAP reputation follow:
QNAP's FW security issues
QNAP's hardware compatibility list madness
QNAP's new logo competition
Dear QNAP, kindly fire your clueless incompetent forum "admin" And while at it, don't forget the webmaster!
- forkless
- Experience counts
- Posts: 1907
- Joined: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:52 am
- Location: The Netherlands
Re: Goodbye community
While there can be good reasons for moderating a post "enriching" them for WHATEVER reason is absolutely a nogo.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Personally I like full transparency when it comes to forum moderation, on my own board I have hacked the edit feature so moderator/admin edits are fully publicly visible. It's sad you see you leave over something like this but I can fully understand your sentiments.
Best of luck in the future.
Mark.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Personally I like full transparency when it comes to forum moderation, on my own board I have hacked the edit feature so moderator/admin edits are fully publicly visible. It's sad you see you leave over something like this but I can fully understand your sentiments.
Best of luck in the future.
Mark.
- schumaku
- Guru
- Posts: 43579
- Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:41 pm
- Location: Kloten (Zurich), Switzerland -- Skype: schumaku
- Contact:
Re: Goodbye community
Speechless - sad to see you go.
Can't think this was done by a moderator or a global moderator (or even an admin): Simply because of this would leave a trace, i.e. as from my moderator days in http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?p=284375#p284393 - typical reasons for me to edit editing were to shorten full quoting, remove personal and technical parts (FQDN, public IP addresses, usernames, passwords, or the like).
Anyway, all the best wishes to you!
Regards,
-Kurt.
Can't think this was done by a moderator or a global moderator (or even an admin): Simply because of this would leave a trace, i.e. as from my moderator days in http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?p=284375#p284393 - typical reasons for me to edit editing were to shorten full quoting, remove personal and technical parts (FQDN, public IP addresses, usernames, passwords, or the like).
Dropping a PM with a contact in QNAP ... as I like to see you back soon.Last edited by schumaku on 24 Aug 2012, 14:30, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: fixed qquoting
Anyway, all the best wishes to you!
Regards,
-Kurt.
- Briain
- Experience counts
- Posts: 1749
- Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:56 pm
- Location: Edinburgh (Scotland)
Re: Goodbye community
Hi
That is a massive shame; I do hope you will reconsider as you will be massively missed!
I've edited a couple of posts in the past, but only to fix broken hyperlinks where, for example, someone has hastily pasted the URL after the ] as opposed to after the = (in other words, to fix a typo error and thus make the post show exactly as the author obviously intended it to show) and I've always either added the edit reason to the bottom of the post, or if not, informed the original author via a PM.
As Forkless has alluded to, the anonymous adding of a picture to enrich a post only for the purpose of making it 'dramatic' is inappropriate, but hopefully this can be resolved by us all discussing it openly here and thus - one would hope - it not ever happening in the future.
As I say, please do reconsider as it would be a massive shame to leave because of this unfortunate incident. Yes, it is indeed an inappropriate action, but after looking at the picture, I can only assume that however did it has made a critical error of judgement (maybe even a wine or beer related event) and that it was intended to amuse rather than to offend, so it really would be a great shame if this unfortunate incident resulted in such a valued contributor as yourself leaving the forum due to an event that whist displaying a bad judgement, looks to have been performed with no ill intent.
The entire forum (and thousands of Qnap owners) would seriously suffer from your departure, and speaking personally, I would (and hopefully not 'will') massively miss reading your extremely informative and extremely valuable posts. That would be a great shame if it were all down to one bad judgement from one person who almost certainly meant no harm, but I do appreciate your annoyance about it.
Kind regards
Briain
That is a massive shame; I do hope you will reconsider as you will be massively missed!
I've edited a couple of posts in the past, but only to fix broken hyperlinks where, for example, someone has hastily pasted the URL after the ] as opposed to after the = (in other words, to fix a typo error and thus make the post show exactly as the author obviously intended it to show) and I've always either added the edit reason to the bottom of the post, or if not, informed the original author via a PM.
As Forkless has alluded to, the anonymous adding of a picture to enrich a post only for the purpose of making it 'dramatic' is inappropriate, but hopefully this can be resolved by us all discussing it openly here and thus - one would hope - it not ever happening in the future.
As I say, please do reconsider as it would be a massive shame to leave because of this unfortunate incident. Yes, it is indeed an inappropriate action, but after looking at the picture, I can only assume that however did it has made a critical error of judgement (maybe even a wine or beer related event) and that it was intended to amuse rather than to offend, so it really would be a great shame if this unfortunate incident resulted in such a valued contributor as yourself leaving the forum due to an event that whist displaying a bad judgement, looks to have been performed with no ill intent.
The entire forum (and thousands of Qnap owners) would seriously suffer from your departure, and speaking personally, I would (and hopefully not 'will') massively miss reading your extremely informative and extremely valuable posts. That would be a great shame if it were all down to one bad judgement from one person who almost certainly meant no harm, but I do appreciate your annoyance about it.
Kind regards
Briain
TS-119, 1 X Seagate ~~ TS-219, 2 X Seagate (R1) ~~ TS-453A, 2 X 3 TB WD Red (R1) ~~ TS-659, 5 X 1 TB Hitachi Enterprise (R6)
APC Smart-UPS 750
APC Smart-UPS 750
- KL643
- Experience counts
- Posts: 1996
- Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:21 pm
- Location: @40000ft
- Contact:
Re: Goodbye community
Sad but understandable to see an experienced member like you leave...all the best!
- pwilson
- Guru
- Posts: 22533
- Joined: Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:20 am
- Location: Victoria, BC, Canada (UTC-08:00)
Re: Goodbye community
I unfortunately am the guilty party. I meant no malice to anyone. It was a massive error in judgement on my part. I have edited two posts that way.
(I had asked Lars to add "wrapimg" BBCode to the Forum, so was playing with it). I should have edited my own posts to do so. I meant no disrespect to the P3R, nor the Community, and I take full responsibility for my complete error in judgment. I honesty was simply playing with a "new feature" of the Forum. I meant no malice to anyone. I completely acknowledge this complaint, and error on my part. What I did was "wrong", and I take responsibility for my poor judgement and actions.
I have already apologized to P3R via PM. I now humbly apologize to the Community. I will never do this again to any community member. I made this grievous lapse in judgement, but rather than hide and hope no one finds out. I feel it is necessary to "fess up". What I did was wrong. I take full responsibility for my actions. I will never do this to anyone again.
Patrick.
(I had asked Lars to add "wrapimg" BBCode to the Forum, so was playing with it). I should have edited my own posts to do so. I meant no disrespect to the P3R, nor the Community, and I take full responsibility for my complete error in judgment. I honesty was simply playing with a "new feature" of the Forum. I meant no malice to anyone. I completely acknowledge this complaint, and error on my part. What I did was "wrong", and I take responsibility for my poor judgement and actions.
I have already apologized to P3R via PM. I now humbly apologize to the Community. I will never do this again to any community member. I made this grievous lapse in judgement, but rather than hide and hope no one finds out. I feel it is necessary to "fess up". What I did was wrong. I take full responsibility for my actions. I will never do this to anyone again.
Patrick.
P3R wrote:When trying to help people here I sometimes search my own posts for old information and a while ago I noticed that one of my posts had silently been edited by someone:
http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=1 ... 58#p355329
I never added that picture and please note that there is no indication that the post have been edited!
I asked a moderator to check what had happened with my post but was informed that he didn't have the rights to see that. I therefore approached the only person from Qnap that I ever have had any contact with and that is still within the organization, if he could check on this issue or please forward my request to whoever is the administrator. It have now been more than one month without any reply on that PM.
I accept being moderated of course, if it is clear that the post was changed by a moderator or an admin (and preferably with an explanation why) but when my posts are silently changed into having a different message than I intended, I find it totally inacceptable. Who knows what may be added and who knows how many other of my posts have been edited without my consent?
If it was a hobby forum run by teenage geeks, I would at least understand that it could happen but since this is the official forum run by a relatively large manufacturer, I find it extremely unprofessional.
I have always held this forum very high for having some extremely competent participants and for allowing also negative opinions about Qnap. I still think all that is awesome and I probably will be a lurker but what have now happened makes it impossible for me to be able to continue to participate...
I wan't to thank everyone for all the things I have learned and all the fun I had here over the years!
Goodbye
Patrick M. Wilson
Victoria, BC Canada
QNAP TS-470 Pro w/ 4 * Western Digital WD30EFRX WD Reds (RAID5) - - Single 8.1TB Storage Pool FW: QTS 4.2.0 Build 20151023 - Kali Linux v1.06 (64bit)
Forums: View My Profile - Search My Posts - View My Photo - View My Location - Top Community Posters
QNAP: Turbo NAS User Manual - QNAP Wiki - QNAP Tutorials - QNAP FAQs
Please review: When you're asking a question, please include the following.
- KL643
- Experience counts
- Posts: 1996
- Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:21 pm
- Location: @40000ft
- Contact:
Re: Goodbye community
This question remains unanswered...still curious by who and why it was closed. Do you know something about it Patrick?doktornotor wrote: Still waiting for answer why the Qnology thread has been closed silently. Again, no response. Why am I not surprised?
- forkless
- Experience counts
- Posts: 1907
- Joined: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:52 am
- Location: The Netherlands
Re: Goodbye community
It's very like that QNAP staff has closed that thread (for obvious reasons). Anyway, if P3R has nothing to say anymore I think this thread should be closed. It serves no purpose staying open anymore.
-
- Getting the hang of things
- Posts: 80
- Joined: Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:13 pm
Re: Goodbye community
goodbey P3R, we will miss you
-
- Experience counts
- Posts: 1560
- Joined: Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:40 am
- Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
- Contact:
Re: Goodbye community
I'm sorry for what made P3R angry. He was(?) useful member of the community.pwilson wrote: I unfortunately am the guilty party. I meant no malice to anyone. It was a massive error in judgement on my part. I have edited two posts that way.
experience with administration of UN*X (mostly linux) and applications on internet servers since 1994...
-
- Been there, done that
- Posts: 720
- Joined: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:52 pm
Re: Goodbye community
Very sad to see you go. Always thought your contributions have been excellent.
QNAP TS-EC1079 Pro (4.3.4.0435) | 10 x 4 TB (WD WDC WD40EFRX firmware 82.00A82) | 32 TB RAID-6
QNAP TS-639 Pro (3.8.1 Build 20121205) | 6 x 3 TB (Toshiba DT01ACA300 firmware MX6OABB0) | 12 TB RAID-6
Both shared over single port GbE and wifi router to Linux, Android, Windows, macOS and NVIDIA Shield
QNAP TS-639 Pro (3.8.1 Build 20121205) | 6 x 3 TB (Toshiba DT01ACA300 firmware MX6OABB0) | 12 TB RAID-6
Both shared over single port GbE and wifi router to Linux, Android, Windows, macOS and NVIDIA Shield
- forkless
- Experience counts
- Posts: 1907
- Joined: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:52 am
- Location: The Netherlands
Re: Goodbye community
Can we please close this thread. Thank you.
- Toxic17
- Ask me anything
- Posts: 6468
- Joined: Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:41 pm
- Location: Planet Earth
- Contact:
Re: Goodbye community
locked as requested. the thread has done its purpose and no further discussion will solve anything.
Regards Simon
Qnap Downloads
MyQNap.Org Repository
Submit a ticket • QNAP Helpdesk
QNAP Tutorials, User Manuals, FAQs, Downloads, Wiki
When you ask a question, please include the following
NAS: TS-673A QuTS hero h5.1.2.2534 • TS-121 4.3.3.2420 • APC Back-UPS ES 700G
Network: VM Hub3: 500/50 • UniFi UDM Pro: 3.2.9 • UniFi Network Controller: 8.0.28
USW-Aggregation: 6.6.61 • US-16-150W: 6.6.61 • 2x USW Mini Flex 2.0.0 • UniFi AC Pro 6.6.62 • UniFi U6-LR 6.6.62
UniFi Protect: 2.11.21/8TB Skyhawk AI • 3x G3 Instants: 4.69.55 • UniFi G3 Flex: 4.69.55 • UniFi G5 Flex: 4.69.55
Qnap Downloads
MyQNap.Org Repository
Submit a ticket • QNAP Helpdesk
QNAP Tutorials, User Manuals, FAQs, Downloads, Wiki
When you ask a question, please include the following
NAS: TS-673A QuTS hero h5.1.2.2534 • TS-121 4.3.3.2420 • APC Back-UPS ES 700G
Network: VM Hub3: 500/50 • UniFi UDM Pro: 3.2.9 • UniFi Network Controller: 8.0.28
USW-Aggregation: 6.6.61 • US-16-150W: 6.6.61 • 2x USW Mini Flex 2.0.0 • UniFi AC Pro 6.6.62 • UniFi U6-LR 6.6.62
UniFi Protect: 2.11.21/8TB Skyhawk AI • 3x G3 Instants: 4.69.55 • UniFi G3 Flex: 4.69.55 • UniFi G5 Flex: 4.69.55