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Transfer files from one HDD to another?

Postby canada16 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:38 am

Hey dont want to mess anything up so thought I would ask, as not good with all this tech stuff.

I have a TS-459 PRO.

I have a 2tb samsung drive, but I bought a 3tb seagate, I want to transfer all the files from the 2tb to the 3tb and use the 2tb as a spare until I get more 3tb drives.

All my data is on the 2tb, and I want to get it on the 3tb.

Whats the best way of doing this, I am probably not going to keep the 2tb in the nas, just want the files to be transfered over.

Thanks so much
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Re: Transfer files from one HDD to another?

Postby sbresin » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:47 am

plugging the 2tb as an externak usb/esata drive is probably the easiest way
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Re: Transfer files from one HDD to another?

Postby canada16 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:49 am

How do I do that.

Thanks again
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Re: Transfer files from one HDD to another?

Postby canada16 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:47 pm

Can anyone help, surely there is someone that knows how to get files from on internal hdd to another?

I dont have a PC so this is not an option.

Can I just do Raid one, and will this copy everything over ?

Please can someone help.

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Re: Transfer files from one HDD to another?

Postby P3R » Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:09 pm

canada16 wrote:Can I just do Raid one, and will this copy everything over ?
Well you can migrate from single disk to a RAID 1 but then you would be forced to have the 2 TB disk still in there as removing it would render you a degraded disk volume. Furthermore you would only be able to use 2 TB of the 3 TB available on the larger disk.

This is what I think is easiest:
1. Power down the NAS.
2. Reinitialize the NAS from scratch with the 3 TB disk.
3. Connect the 2 TB externally via USB or eSATA. It should appear as multiple disks and you should be able to find your data in the largest one of them.
4. Login as admin and use Web File Manager to copy the data to the internal disk.

This procedure is by no means totally risk free so make sure you have backed all important files up before starting.
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Re: Transfer files from one HDD to another?

Postby canada16 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:25 pm

Thanks for the reply.

I cant believe you cant put in one HDD and just transfer the files to an empty disc, what a pain.

Sorry to sound dumb, but I dont have a HDD enclosure so USB is out, so what wire do I need to get this esata thing working.

Can you point me to what I need.

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Re: Transfer files from one HDD to another?

Postby canada16 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:06 pm

What about this?

I have put my 2tb drive back in and removed the 3tb.

So can I just put my 3tb back in now and somehow transfer the files over ?

Cant I use the Migrate, in raid management ?

http://web.qnap.com/pro_features_RLM.asp
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Re: Transfer files from one HDD to another?

Postby sbresin » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:24 pm

external enclosure for nas is a 'must have' especially for backups. you should buy a cheap one and life will become easy :D
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Re: Transfer files from one HDD to another?

Postby schumaku » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:30 pm

No experience with large drives on single slsot NAS - I would try enabling Q-RAID1 and let it rattle for some days, this should dod the job. Once Q-RAID1 is in sync, shstdown, and move the external 3 TB drive into the NAS.

Sorry - was misleaded by the signature showing a sisngle bay NAS. There is no Q-RAID1 on the four bay units of course.

No other way than inserting the 3 TB drive in the second bay, and recursively copy the share folders from /share/HDA_DATA/[sharename] to /share/HDB_DATA/

...plus some of the hidden folders like...

/share/HDA_DATA/.@backup_config
/share/HDA_DATA/.@centerim
/share/HDA_DATA/.@iscsi.img
/share/HDA_DATA/.@mysql
/share/HDA_DATA/.@twonkymedia.db
/share/HDA_DATA/.antivirus
/share/HDA_DATA/.ldapdb
/share/HDA_DATA/.qpkg
/share/HDA_DATA/.spool
/share/HDA_DATA/.system
/share/HDA_DATA/.timemachine
/share/HDA_DATA/.torrent
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Re: Transfer files from one HDD to another?

Postby P3R » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:38 pm

schumaku wrote:No experience with large drives on single slsot NAS - I would try enabling Q-RAID1...
It isn't a single slot NAS so no Q-RAID 1.
canada16 wrote:I have a TS-459 PRO.
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Re: Transfer files from one HDD to another?

Postby P3R » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:54 pm

canada16 wrote:I cant believe you cant put in one HDD and just transfer the files to an empty disc, what a pain.
Well you can in do that in different ways but it was you that said that you later wanted to remove the 2 TB disk, and that complicate matters considerably.

You could add the 3 TB as a single disk volume and copy the data to it but I'm not sure you can remove the main disk (the 2 TB) and somehow make the 3 TB disk the main instead. Maybe it's possible but I'm not the person to guide you through that. Maybe schumaku can?
So can I just put my 3tb back in now and somehow transfer the files over ?
If you have already configured the NAS with this disk I wouldn't recommend putting it back in together with the 2 TB. I don't know, but you'll very likely mess something up if having two conflicting configurations in there at the same time. I would now have all content deleted on that disk in another computer before using it together with the 2 TB disk in the NAS.
Cant I use the Migrate, in raid management ?

http://web.qnap.com/pro_features_RLM.asp
I did cover that in an earlier post: "...you can migrate from single disk to a RAID 1 but then you would be forced to have the 2 TB disk still in there as removing it would render you a degraded disk volume. Furthermore you would only be able to use 2 TB of the 3 TB available on the larger disk".
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Re: Transfer files from one HDD to another?

Postby canada16 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:03 pm

I am just going to by a 3.5" enclosure, I think that would probably be the best idea and simplest.

So put the 3tb drive in.
Take the 2tb out and put in the enclosure.
Then press copy usb button on the front
then that should transfer my files from the enclosure to the nas 3tb ?

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Re: Transfer files from one HDD to another?

Postby sbresin » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:18 pm

to copy datas is it better to use the webfile manager (top right corner of the main webpage)
http://docs.qnap.com/nas/en/index.html? ... anager.htm

you could either buy an external enclosure or plug the 3Tb disk in the second bay as suggested by schumaku

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Re: Transfer files from one HDD to another?

Postby canada16 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:36 pm

Ok this is getting confusing, so you say I can just put the empty 3tb drive into the 2nd bay and use webfile to transfer the files from the 2tb to the 3tb ?
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Re: Transfer files from one HDD to another?

Postby sbresin » Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:54 pm

you should put the new disk in the first bay, install the system without the old disk, then plug the old disk in the second bay and copy datas with webfile manager. The only thing to be careful of is when you install the system it formats disks.
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