Drives spinup when iPad is accessing the Wifi

[das_ubersoldat]

Hi,

I noticed a strange thing: The QNAP drives spin up as soon as my iPhone or iPad connect to my Wifi. I'm using a Fritzbox 7390 and I have a TS219P+. Apple Networking is disabled.

Anyone have an idea how to avoid this in the future?

[schumaku]

Apple Networking is disabled.

Great, these are about the only protocols (AFP and the legacy AppleTalk over TCP) the iPad does not use - unless there is a 3rd party client installed...

[doktornotor]

Great, these are about the only protocols (AFP and the legacy AppleTalk over TCP) the iPad does not use

SCNR.

@OP: Sure: Put your NAS behind a firewall or better yet disconnect it from network. Even better, you might pull the power cord. This "oh noes, my NAS is working, I want it to sleep instead" mentality is amazing.

[das_ubersoldat]

not sure what is so funny...

i just want to avoid unnecessary spinups when i'm not accessing the nas intentionally.

[schumaku]

It is funny - because we have no clue what you have installed and running on your iPad - and you have disabled the only sevice the iPad does not know about. Well, obviously a service on the iPad leading to a spin-up ... It this a NAS or an iPad problem now? Obvious, a) the disk spun down as per the specs sheet before, and b) it spun-up as it' was obviously required to do so - aparently triggered by the iPad WLAN connection. Now, the fellow community members here have no crystal ball available.

Suggestions? Ask Apple, as it's their product, what is creating network connections or use the standard procedure made available by QNAP to investigate. Or consider wait some minutes - does the disk stay up (so it's really related to an initial connection to the WLAN with the possible state change of some IOS processes, and (direct or indirect) to the NAS, or will the HDD spin-down following something more than the configued idle time? Alternate approach: Install a solid state disk if this spinup is deathly to the climate, the electric power bill, or the noise is simply to much.

Should you think I'm nasty? Yes, I am when it comes to these kind of questions. There are no "unnecessary spinups" - the system is designed to spin-up when data is to be accessed. So from my NAS view, the spinup is necessary. Why? What would you whine if it would not do so in time...?

Moving the thread to the HDD spindown subforum.

[das_ubersoldat]

if you are working for qnap they should fire you for your arrogance. if you are not working for them they should be happy.

unfortunately i thought this forum is there to ask questions but apparently it is your job to make fun of everyone. better try to guide the people in the right direction instead of frustrating them with your attitude.

back to the question: I don't have any apps on the iPad that access local network shares etc.(if that was the case I wouldn't ask this question here) - It has standard apps like news, video, facebook, etc. they spindown after the configured 30mins.

yes there are unnecessary spinups in this case as I'm not accessing the NAS through any apps.

[Briain]

The only thing I can think of is that it must be an app you have installd (unless you have you set the Qnap as your DHCP server, or something odd like that). I use an iPad for checking email many times per day and I've never caught it spinning up my Qnap disks (so even if it does, it certainly must be extremely rarely as it is something I occasionally check for and I've not yet seen it happen) so it's something you should be able to track down and address.

It's the one thing that's good about the iPad and that concerns me about my plan to eventually use Windows 8 (I intend to get a Win 8 tablet at some stage in the future and I'd expect that most certainly will spin the disks up) but as I say, I've never spotted that happening when resuming my iPad (or starting wireless on my Android phone).

Apart from the occasionally inexplicable spin up (maybe once a day and not relatd to anything that I have started up) the only time the disks do spin up is when I fire up a Windows machine, or when I use Twonky Beam on the iPad (which rattles everything on the network as part of its discovery and media player configuration processes), or when I use a control point on the iPad to play my media (served by Twonky on the Qnap) or if I do something like using a ping app (to list what's on the network) on my iPad or Android devices. FYI I don't have AFP enabled in the Qnap, but I do have Microsoft networking enabled and I can use the file browser app (on the iPad) to open documents stored on the NAS (obviously, opening that app and selecting the Qnap most certainly does spin the disks up).

Bri

[doktornotor]

back to the question: I don't have any apps on the iPad that access local network shares etc.(if that was the case I wouldn't ask this question here)

Yup, obviously the NAS is psychic and spins up pre-emptively in fear of missing the exciting exchange of packets with the mighty iDevice.

See, install some traffic sniffer, we are really out of crystal balls. Obviously the iPad is generating NAS-bound traffic that makes it spin up.