:2e* and .AppleDouble files when using AFP

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Re: :2e* and .AppleDouble files when using AFP

Postby schumaku » Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:17 am

Could you imagine, these folders exist on purpose, and are not garbage?
.@_thumb
...are holding the Thumbnail images used i.e. for the Multimedia Station. With the coming-up v3.4 firmware, a Web UI control to schedule or disable the media library rescan.
.AppleDB
.AppleDesktop
.AppleDouble
.TemporaryItems
.Trashes
:2eTemporaryItems

All Apple OS X (or earlier A/UX) created and required. .AppleDouble might remain when files are deleted in specific way (i.e. from the NAS Linux shell). When using the NAS with OS X and Windows clients, use SAMBA only, and disable AFP.
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Re: :2e* and .AppleDouble files when using AFP

Postby ton123 » Sun Jan 30, 2011 2:18 am

schumaku wrote: When using the NAS with OS X and Windows clients, use SAMBA only, and disable AFP.


Bad advice in my opinion. AFP is a lot more efficient compared to SMB.

Besides that, the fact one does not see it does not mean it is not there. It is a behaviour similar to certain animals that put their head into the sand thinking "If I do not see it the it is not there".
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Re: :2e* and .AppleDouble files when using AFP

Postby schumaku » Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:47 am

ton123 wrote: Bad advice in my opinion. AFP is a lot more efficient compared to SMB.
Ok, no problem - but don't complain about potential issues caused - on your own.

ton123 wrote:Besides that, the fact one does not see it does not mean it is not there. It is a behaviour similar to certain animals that put their head into the sand thinking "If I do not see it the it is not there".
So and?
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:2e* and .AppleDouble files when using AFP

Postby whoisnader » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:39 am

I also don't agree with using samba only. I have some apps that just don't work with samba properly on the qnap for some reason but have no issue with afp. Also, osx file transfers on samba are slower than afp by a noticeable and appreciable amount.

By the way, what's with that lame comment, "you are on your own!" What a stupid attitude.

If Qnap didn't want to support their customers with running both together, then why do they allow us to do it? If we the customers are on our own with this setting, then don't allow us to enable it, otherwise shutup.
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Re: :2e* and .AppleDouble files when using AFP

Postby ton123 » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:48 am

schumaku wrote:
ton123 wrote: Bad advice in my opinion. AFP is a lot more efficient compared to SMB.
Ok, no problem - but don't complain about potential issues caused - on your own.


Hold your horses!

Qnap clearly states that their NAS is Mac OSX compatible! So they should take care of these things just like they do take care of Windows user.

If they do not want that or are unable then they should not sell these things as compatibel.

ton123 wrote:Besides that, the fact one does not see it does not mean it is not there. It is a behaviour similar to certain animals that put their head into the sand thinking "If I do not see it the it is not there".
So and?


Are you seriously proposing that a manufacturer just closes their eyes to these kind of problems? My God, I hope you are in no way affiliated with or have any position in the Qnap hierarchy.

You will solve all the problems by just looking the other way.


Last but not least: I have read no limitation (on the Qnap site) on using AFP. On the contrary I read raving about the compatibility.
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Re: :2e* and .AppleDouble files when using AFP

Postby schumaku » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:59 am

whoisnader wrote:If Qnap didn't want to support their customers with running both together, then why do they allow us to do it?
Again, you can of course run both together.

No doubt, there are Apple applications making use of extended functions of AFP. Disputeable how smart that is - but realistically, Apple has never taken care of infrastructurer not carrying the logo. So complain with Apple about the fact that more and more iApplications are no longer compatible to industry standard servers and protocols.

However, Enough Apple users have problems with both services announced by Bonjour, and by accidentially mixing AFP and SAMBA connection. At no time I have never stated QNAP has the best possible Apple support: There is a lot of room to enhance - on the Bonjour announcement, on the TimeMachine support, ...

whoisnader wrote:By the way, what's with that lame comment, "you are on your own!" What a stupid attitude.
I am not QNAP. Why do you blame users helping other users? Stop that please. :shock:
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Re: :2e* and .AppleDouble files when using AFP

Postby schumaku » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:05 am

Wasn't the original question about .files and .folders that are almost all exclusively required, created, and maintained for OS X?

ton123 wrote:Hold your horses!
Sorry, I will not. In Switzerland, we have free speech policy.
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Re: :2e* and .AppleDouble files when using AFP

Postby ton123 » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:07 am

schumaku wrote:Wasn't the original question about .files and .folders that are almost all exclusively required, created, and maintained for OS X?

ton123 wrote:Hold your horses!
Sorry, I will not. In Switzerland, we have free speech policy.


Apparently you do not understand the expression "Hold your horses". Ask some banker, he will be able to tell you.
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Re: :2e* and .AppleDouble files when using AFP

Postby schumaku » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:12 am

Sorry, I was never patient.
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:2e* and .AppleDouble files when using AFP

Postby whoisnader » Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:59 am

You seem to find lame excuses at the drop of a hat.

"You are on your own" != Users helping users, only does that statement become true in your own troll world.

Free speech policy != free troll policy, no country likes a pain in the **.
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Re: :2e* and .AppleDouble files when using AFP

Postby marc.garcia » Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:19 pm

Hi there,

I just got myself my first my first Mac OS machine, and I've started to see hidden folders appear everywhere in my NAS. Trying to look up information about what those files might be, I've discovered this thread. I wonder how come this has not been solved yet even though some member of the QNAP staff looked into the matter some years ago...

Do I have to start flirting around with scripts and configuration files?? come on, seriously??!!!
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Re: :2e* and .AppleDouble files when using AFP

Postby daviddagenais » Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:21 am

I am having the same issue. I have a 809U-RP. Seeing the :2e files and it's annoying. I have my boxee box connected to the NAS via NFS and every time I add a movie to my movie folder I see the 4KB .mkv and also the actual movie. Any way to prevent this?

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FTP Veto Files?

Postby rumknapser » Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:06 am

Users connecting via FTP to our NAS also see those files and are very confused.
(Some are actually saving data to the "AppleDesktop" Folder, because .... sigh, I don't know, but they do...)

How to hide those (useless) Files/Folders while using FTP?

They might be useful for Apple Users, but we have a mixed NAS for Linux/Mac/Windows Users, so Linux/Windows users should'nt be confused by files shown for no special reason.
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Re: FTP Veto Files?

Postby ton123 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:18 pm

rumknapser wrote:They might be useful for Apple Users,.


I am a Apple user but absolutely see no use in all these weird files that popup everywhere. So there should be a global setting "Do not show 'dot' files" and everybody can be happy.
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Re: :2e* and .AppleDouble files when using AFP

Postby franklahm » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:46 pm

nnsqnap wrote:I've run into these folders in my QNAP's shared media folder:
.AppleDB
.AppleDesktop
.AppleDouble
.TemporaryItems
.Trashes
:2eTemporaryItems
Would really love to delete all this extra garbage.


https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/netatalk/index.php?title=Special_Files_and_Folders
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