WD Green Drives no good for QNAP's??

[jollster101]

This link worked a treat for me. One thing I had to do was disable the timer first using the /d switch.

For some reason not doing that came up with a CauseWay 07 Error each time.

Disabled the timer, the used the info from the Synology site and lo and behold I had changed the idle time.

Sweet.

[markovts]

mine was showing the following :-

Power_On_Hours 100 100 000 405
Power_Cycle_Count 100 100 000 182
Load_Cycle_Count 177 177 000 71377

i almost ** myself when i seen this.

used that wdidle3 program and disabled it, which then set the default time to 62 minutes.

i've now put the drive back into the NAS and will see how it goes over the next few days.

[AcC]

So is there any reliable disk which can replace the 1.5TB WD green for my ts439p


@markovts

And....any result yet?

[johannlo]

guys, I'm trying to use the wdidle3 utility.

I made a Win98 boot USB which works, but the wdidle3 utility cannot see the hard drive. I suspect its because its a SATA drive.

Can anyone who's done it suggest how to create a boot USB that WILL recognise SATA? or is this not the problem? I tried BartPE builder and slipstreamed the wdidle3 file but my computer bluescreens when using it lol

THanks in advance

[jollster101]

guys, I'm trying to use the wdidle3 utility.

I made a Win98 boot USB which works, but the wdidle3 utility cannot see the hard drive. I suspect its because its a SATA drive.

Can anyone who's done it suggest how to create a boot USB that WILL recognise SATA? or is this not the problem? I tried BartPE builder and slipstreamed the wdidle3 file but my computer bluescreens when using it lol

THanks in advance

Check this page out and it should guide you through it.

http://www.bay-wolf.com/usbmemstick.htm

I used it with no issues.

Also, I disconnected all other drives as well so that the WD drive was the only one. That sorted it for me.

[johannlo]

Yep i sorted it out eventually.

The trick is: for those with newer motherboards, you NEED TO TURN OFF AHCI MODE IN BIOS

It needs to be SATA not AHCI (which apparently disables NCQ and a few other more modern features)

After I did this, a win98 boot USB did the trick w/ wdidle3.

Load Cycles are definitely not incrementing anywhere as fast anymore, not one in the last half an hour and I haven't been accessing the NAS (its mounted but nothing is copying or playing off it).

[jollster101]

I am looking to replace my 1.5TB WD Green drive in my TS-109II with a 2TB drive. The only 2TB drive that is on that compatibility list is a WD 2TB drive and have read that it still has the same issue.

I have posted elsewhere to see if anybody knows if the Hitachi and Seagate 2TB drives that are in the compatibility list for the TS-110 will work with no problems.........I am still awaiting a response to that post.

I wonder if the WD 2TB drive that is in the compatibility list would overcome the high load count by using this wdidle fix.

Anybody have an input???

Cheers

[johannlo]

jollster, for what its worth, try the wdidle3 fix, it worked for me, no more worries (and worrying about having to drop another half a grand in hard drives lol)

[jollster101]

Thanks, I was planning to do that if I couldnt get any decent info about whether the Hitachi or Seagate drives would work. I cant see why they wouldnt as the TS-110 is the next step up from the archived TS-109II. I would rather get the nod from someone who is running them first though before I shell put cash on the hope that it does.

I have the wdidle fix running now on my 1.5TB and it seems to be fine.

I presume that was the main concern that most people seemed to have with these drives and once applied, most of the problems went away.

[Nees]

the WDIDLE3-fix only help people that use RAID1 or 0, else (raid setups with parity) you will still have problems with the error recovery timeouts and that is a problem with ANY desktop-class drive, not limited to WD green caviar. Your data is actually never safe when using non-raid-class dives as your drives might be dropped without really being faulty and only because the raid-controller thinks there is a problem with the drive while in a deep/long error recovery-mode.

[Qzeist]

when this happens, there is always of data loss?

[johannlo]

Sorry but I beg to differ, TS-409 w/ 4x WD15EADS in a RAID-5.

I had the load cycle incrementing too fast issue but have got no performance or stuttering issues. Then again TS409 performance seems miles poorer than the newer ones that ARE experiencing the problem - even before I was using RAID edition drives (4x750) performance was average (~15Mb/sec read, ~10Mb/sec write) so maybe I'm not hitting the bottleneck.

Then again YMMV and maybe I just got lucky (phew)

Bear in mind though mate that this thread is people complaining about the LLC / disk park issue not the stalling issue.

[Nees]

No, no data loss, but the risk is higher, because you need to rebuild which would have been unneeded if you had raid-class drives, since you would have never noticed there was bad sector on a drive and the raid-controller fixed it by writing the data somewhere else and flag the sector.

read this http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/learningresource/whitepapers/LearningResource_CCTL.html

you will understand, desktop drives will work, just like in a pc, only raid-controllers are more sensitive. On a pc it might take a minute and you see your HD doing some weird stuff and the led is always on and then BOOM, error on screen that a certain file could not be read or something. a Raid-class drive will timeout and the raidcontroller takes over to get the good data from other drives. A desktop-class, like the WD15EADS, will be dropped...

QNAP could fix this, bit probably won't, by giving the user and option to set the timeout-time higher then 7secs. Some controllers allow it.

@ johannlo, all may work fine, your data isn't just as safe as it should be, meaning, you might see a drive being dropped quicker then it should caus of that.

[xavierh]

My green drive (1TB) was giving me issues withthe automatic smart tests and after checing for bad blocks (which it has) I will be replacing it with a black drive from WD (same size). I will still try to recoever the drive usign spinrite...

[xavierh]

My green drive (1TB) was giving me issues withthe automatic smart tests and after checing for bad blocks (which it has) I will be replacing it with a black drive from WD (same size). I will still try to recoever the drive usign spinrite...