UPDATE: Decided on the TVS-951x (planning on getting a new TS-453Be)

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Re: planning on getting a new TS-453Be

Post by howarmat » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:12 am

claykin wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:13 am
Consider looking at the TVS-472XT instead. By the time you populate the 453Be with the M.2 card, you're not far off from the 472XT. With the 472XT, you get a much more powerful CPU, 2x NVME, 10Gbe, USB 3.1, HDMI 2.0, thunderbolt 3, etc... Much better box for a few $ more.
that is like 2.5x as much as the 453be...not sure that is a "few $ more" really

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Re: planning on getting a new TS-453Be

Post by xavierh » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:47 pm

howarmat wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:12 am
claykin wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:13 am
Consider looking at the TVS-472XT instead. By the time you populate the 453Be with the M.2 card, you're not far off from the 472XT. With the 472XT, you get a much more powerful CPU, 2x NVME, 10Gbe, USB 3.1, HDMI 2.0, thunderbolt 3, etc... Much better box for a few $ more.
that is like 2.5x as much as the 453be...not sure that is a "few $ more" really
exactly and you do get 10Gbit already with the 951x and more room to grow (9 drive bays vs 4).

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Re: UPDATE: Decided on the TVS-951x (planning on getting a new TS-453Be)

Post by xavierh » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:40 pm

Liking the 951x so far. migration form the ts-453a went well. the only hitch were the dockers containers they experience network connectivity issues. fix was to completely remove them and container station and install it again problem solved.

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Re: UPDATE: Decided on the TVS-951x (planning on getting a new TS-453Be)

Post by Trexx » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:59 am

Glad things are working good so far. Make sure and get your Plex Pass to enable HW transcoding capability.


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Re: planning on getting a new TS-453Be

Post by claykin » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:01 am

howarmat wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:12 am
claykin wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:13 am
Consider looking at the TVS-472XT instead. By the time you populate the 453Be with the M.2 card, you're not far off from the 472XT. With the 472XT, you get a much more powerful CPU, 2x NVME, 10Gbe, USB 3.1, HDMI 2.0, thunderbolt 3, etc... Much better box for a few $ more.
that is like 2.5x as much as the 453be...not sure that is a "few $ more" really
2.5x the price after you add the M.2 card you need? You must have some crazy aggressive pricing on your 453be.
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Re: UPDATE: Decided on the TVS-951x (planning on getting a new TS-453Be)

Post by dolbyman » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:04 am

The 472XT and the 951X have the same IGPU, so if you want hardware transcoding the 951X is the better deal for sure

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UPDATE: Decided on the TVS-951x (planning on getting a new TS-453Be)

Post by xavierh » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:50 am

Trexx wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:59 am
Glad things are working good so far. Make sure and get your Plex Pass to enable HW transcoding capability.


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Thanks Trexx, i have been a Plex pas user for a while now :)

Also the migration “feature” is definitely a time saver for sure. Of course the key is to put the old drives is in the same order as they were in the old has
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Re: UPDATE: Decided on the TVS-951x (planning on getting a new TS-453Be)

Post by xavierh » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:51 am

dolbyman wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:04 am
The 472XT and the 951X have the same IGPU, so if you want hardware transcoding the 951X is the better deal for sure
same conclusion that i reached and now i am using the 453a for the time being as a vpn gateway for some dockers that i have running on the 951x... loving it.

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Re: UPDATE: Decided on the TVS-951x (planning on getting a new TS-453Be)

Post by janwer » Fri Jan 25, 2019 6:14 pm

With 951x you can't have full 4K HDR quality. 472XT looks like cheapest Qnap for full quality 4K. Still too expensive for me.

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Re: UPDATE: Decided on the TVS-951x (planning on getting a new TS-453Be)

Post by dolbyman » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:28 pm

sure you can ..you just dont use the qnap as a player

I doubt the 472XT currently supports HDR output (lack of player support)

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Re: UPDATE: Decided on the TVS-951x (planning on getting a new TS-453Be)

Post by janwer » Sat Jan 26, 2019 2:54 am

So if I'm not using Qnap directly attached to TV via HDMI and Qnap is only Plex server with Plex pass. Then I have Plex player (Apple TV currently) attached to TV and to Qnap via ethernet.

What is the difference for 4K UHD between: TS-251A (current), TVS-951x, TS-873?
Summary of my knowledge: All of them can transcode. Only 951x can do 4x real time. I can get best possible 4K quality and real time transcoding only with 951x. I can have best possible 4K quality with 251A and 873 if I do transcoding at night to a separate file and use more disk space.
Is it correct?

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Re: UPDATE: Decided on the TVS-951x (planning on getting a new TS-453Be)

Post by ssuper2k » Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:39 am

If you do the transcode in advance (no realtime) about any intel/amd NAS will sufice

Do your own tests to check if 1-night transcode is enough. (ie 4k -->720p)

Anyway, for directplay, even in 4k, an ARM NAS is good enough.

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Re: UPDATE: Decided on the TVS-951x (planning on getting a new TS-453Be)

Post by janwer » Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:52 am

So what is advantage of TVS-951x over TS-873? With which should I upgrade from my TS-251A?

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Re: UPDATE: Decided on the TVS-951x (planning on getting a new TS-453Be)

Post by ssuper2k » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:20 am

Mainly if you:
need 4 ssd'+ 5 hdds --> 951
or just prefer 8 hdds --> 873

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Re: UPDATE: Decided on the TVS-951x (planning on getting a new TS-453Be)

Post by dolbyman » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:32 am

why would you want to transcode 4k to 720p ? a larger NAS also has more space (given same size disks used)

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