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Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by Stanri010 » Wed Mar 02, 2016 7:57 pm

I just stumbled across this and wanted to share. https://www.qnap.com/event/2016/0310/

I was eyeing the TVS-871T for a while now but since it's based on the old haswell architecture, I was always hoping for an updated Skylake version.

Enter the TVS-682T, TVS-882T, TVS-1282T. Judging from the images, it's going to have M.2 and 2.5 inch SSD compatibility with the option of PCIe NVME SSD if you choose the drop a Thunderbolt or 10 GBE add in card. From the motherboard diagram, it shows 4 slots of DDR4 ram so that means this baby can take up to 64GB of ram when paired with 8GB dimm DDR4 RAM. This thing can take up to two M.2 SSDs so effectively, if Qnap does it right, they could have all writes hit a pair of m.2 in raid 0 and then get offloaded to the disks. (I'm not that well versed in Qnap's SSD cache implementation yet). This is seriously a beast of a machine. I just hope one of these babies will come in at around the $2000 price point instead of $3000+

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Re: Brand New TSV-x82!

Post by schumaku » Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:16 pm

This will definitively become a cool system!

Stanri010 wrote:Judging from the images, it's going to have M.2 and 2.5 inch SSD compatibility with the option of PCIe NVME SSD if you choose the drop a Thunderbolt or 10 GBE add in card.
There is a third PCI slot on the other side of the main board - this is permitting to keep both. :geek:

Stanri010 wrote:From the motherboard diagram, it shows 4 slots of DDR4 ram so that means this baby can take up to 64GB of ram when paired with 8GB dimm DDR4 RAM.
Very promising, too.

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PS. No, have neither seen nor touched these NAS models yet, too.

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Post by Stanri010 » Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:12 pm

Oh you're right! It's a "PCIe 3x slot". That's kind of strange because there's no such thing as a 3x slot. Perhaps they mean 3rd gen. Judging from the pinouts, it might be a full length 8x. Regardless, the Intel 750 needs a 4x 3rd gen slot to function approprately. I'm guessing that's what the slot was designed for since they show one of those intel nvme 750's on the first slide.

It looks like the CPU is actively cooled too with what looks like a blower.

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Post by schumaku » Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:31 pm

Guess they want to say there are three PCI slots ... technology seems to be different as per the different slot lengths. There is no 4x Gigabit technology, too :ashamed: - these are four ports. Similar to M.2 or four 2.5" bays. Adding a PCIe NVMe SSD is definitively possible.

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Post by Stanri010 » Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:46 pm

I wonder if the system is smart enough to differentiate how it should pull data from the NAS if you have two SSDs and a PCIe SSD installed.

Assuming you've got a Thunderbolt 2 connection, that should allow for a ~2.5 TB/s read and write ignoring overhead. Two or even four SATA III SSDs drives wont saturate that. An Intel 750 SSD will come close but most likely wont either. However, 12 hard drives in raid 5 or 10 could saturate that kind of throughput. Would the system be smart enough to tap the drives directly or will it bottleneck itself and squeeze all the information through the cache drives? I also wonder if it'll prefer a PCIe SSD over two or four 2.5" cache SSDs. Hopefully they'll be options in the interface to choose. If not, probably getting since 750 might be the best way to go.

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Post by schumaku » Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:58 pm

At the end of the day, it's a question of $$$$ ... some SATA SSD are much less expensive than a PCIe SSD. Potential weak point ... single point of failure.

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Re: Brand New TSV-x82T!

Post by FiReBReTHa » Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:01 am

just in time for when I was looking for a good 6 bay rig :) Time to see what the price drops at!

I just started looking at Qnap, what is their new release process like? Announce and Shipments go out?
or is it, Announce and see you in a few months.

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Post by Ifti » Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:02 am

I am very tempted with one of these - I currently have a TVS-871T on loan from QNAP for review, which I will soon send back, but I do fancy one of these new units for personal use!
Trouble is the $$$$ of these things! I don't really have any need for the 10GB/s network ports, so they would be unused - its really the ThunderBolt ports that Im after. I don't suppose its possible to purchase without the 10GB/s card installed and just the TB??

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Re: Brand New TSV-x82T!

Post by FiReBReTHa » Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:10 am

Just for fun...

If anyone was to place an educated guess, What do you think the 6 bay will be priced at? Just making sure that im not being foolish at expecting BMW at kia pricing when I have a trek bike budget ;)

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Re: Brand New TSV-x82T!

Post by okenny » Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:11 am

Apparently these new NASs were announced today, anyone find any information on pricing and release dates?
QNAP TVS-1282-i7K-40G with Corsiar H5 SF watercooling, 3x 80mm PWM Noctua fans, 1x 60mm PWM Noctua fan, Corsair SF450 PSU

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Re: Brand New TSV-x82T!

Post by Ifti » Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:18 am

okenny wrote:Apparently these new NASs were announced today, anyone find any information on pricing and release dates?


Just what I was looking for!!!

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Re: Brand New TSV-x82T!

Post by okenny » Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:28 am

Only Chinese announcement it seems....next week the new NASs will be shown at Cebit in Germany - the western press will report on that.
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Re: Brand New TSV-x82T!

Post by Ifti » Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:10 pm

okenny wrote:Only Chinese announcement it seems....next week the new NASs will be shown at Cebit in Germany - the western press will report on that.


Hmmm...... I would have thought something would have leaked out by now!.....

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Post by chodaboy19 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:46 am

These are interesting, the 8-bay is more like a 6+2, (6 x 3.5") + (2 x 2.5) drives.

TS-670 v4.3.6 (20190531)
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16GB DDR3 1600MHz 1.35v (F3-1600C9D-16GRSL)
6 x 8TB WD (WD80EFZX)
1 x QM2-2P-384
2 x ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1.0TB

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