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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by cryptochrome » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:13 am

Not necessarily. What do you expect from having the system on SSD? Did you know you can install all apps to different volumes? You can even migrate them to a new volume after they have been installed. So you could move all your apps to a volume that is handled by QTier. That will give you a big performance boost across the board.

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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by L3rd » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:35 am

Every disk is assigned to QTier: 2x 500GB SSD (RAID1) and 3x 8TB IronWolf HDD (RAID5)

I'm aiming to have a configuration where the HDD are most of the time sleeping while the R/W is done on the SSD.
Today I feel that it is not the case.
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QNAP TVS-682 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .FW: 4.3.5.0760 Build 20181114
QNAP TS-509 Pro upgraded to Xeon L5408(SLBBT)/4GB . . . . . .FW: 4.2.6 Build 20181026 (TS-809 Pro)
QNAP TS-109 Pro . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .FW: 3.3.3 build 1003
QNAP QG-103N QGenie . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .FW: 3.2.3 (2018/08/10)

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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by okenny » Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:30 am

So, for those of you who converted to Qtier - was the speed improvement substantial?
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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by peelos » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:54 am

jman311 wrote:A question for Corsair H5 SF owners ...

I recently picked up a TVS-882 i3 and am looking into upgrading the CPU and cooler. Can anyone using the Corsair H5 SF confirm if it will fit on top of my RAM modules if they have heatsinks on them? Any photos I have come across of installations appear to be a very tight fit on top of the memory modules, and I've only seen any without heat sinks attached. Is there any clearance?

I have the Kingston HyperX Fury RAM with black heatsinks (HX421C14FBK4).

Thanks!
J
Very little clearance, at least on 1282..no chance it would fit with in there with ram heatsinks. Doubt there is more room in the 882
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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by bluehj » Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:41 am

halotaibi77 wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:48 pm
AlmightyDF wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:08 am
bluehj wrote:
Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:15 am
AlmightyDF wrote:Has HDMI audio with Nvidia GPU's been fixed yet?
I've upgrade the last firmware 4.3.5.0684 (Public Beta) build 20180831 for my tvs-682.but nothing happened with my evga 1060 gaming 6G pass-through .
MY WIN7-VM and WIN10-VM both can't detect sound device.still no audio out.
Any update on this issue? Has it been solved??
This issue will not be solved with the firmware update. The only solution for this is to update the BIOS. Please raise a ticket with QNAP Support and refer them to this post viewtopic.php?f=318&t=144124

Also, Make sure when you raise the ticket to indicate your qnap model, and the CPU Generation. I did the same but QNAP Support sent me the BIOS Update for the TVS-682 with 7th Gen CPU and my CPU is 6th Gen. Now I am still waiting for them to send the correct one. This was on Sep. 29, 2018 and until now nothing.

Good luck.
@halotaibi77
Thank you very much for the information you provided,finally solved my confusion for more than a year. My NAS is TVS-682 (i7-7700). According to the post you provided, I guessed and detected the link to the latest version of the 7th generation CPU BIOS on the QNAP server. The download link is http://download.qnap.com/Storage/tsd/bios/QZ01AR12.zip .
Before upgrade the biso try to remove the nvidia card from the vm, assign instead the emulated vga.After upgraded ,assign again the NVIDIA card,the win7 or win10 VM is working now.

Finally, I have some complaints about QNAP's technology department.the bios file QZ01AR12.zip was released in September 2017.But until today, QNAP's official website has no information about this BIOS.what they think about???
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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by eyalg » Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:07 pm

peelos wrote:
Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:54 am
jman311 wrote:A question for Corsair H5 SF owners ...

I recently picked up a TVS-882 i3 and am looking into upgrading the CPU and cooler. Can anyone using the Corsair H5 SF confirm if it will fit on top of my RAM modules if they have heatsinks on them? Any photos I have come across of installations appear to be a very tight fit on top of the memory modules, and I've only seen any without heat sinks attached. Is there any clearance?

I have the Kingston HyperX Fury RAM with black heatsinks (HX421C14FBK4).

Thanks!
J
Very little clearance, at least on 1282..no chance it would fit with in there with ram heatsinks. Doubt there is more room in the 882
I have the exact same configuration 1282 with Hyper X Black memory modules... as mentioned, the heatsinks will not fit, but it is very easy to remove them...
I just used a hot air blower to heat the heatsinks, that softens the glue, and then used a small screwdriver, and gently pulled the heat sink up, then did the same on the other side...
took me 10 minutes to strip 4 modules, and all is working fine, even without the heatsinks...

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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by jman311 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:30 am

Thank you peelos and eyalg for chiming in on my RAM heatsink question. And thanks to everyone else in this thread providing information on upgrading these amazing beasts.

After doing a lot of research I decided to stick with air cooling instead of going the liquid/AIO route. I decided to go with the NH-L9x65 (by a narrow margin over the Corsair H5 SF).

I can confirm the NH-L9x65 works fine with the existing cooler mount/backplate with the use of 10mm standoffs. I did have to conjure up some male M3 thumb screws to fasten the brackets to the standoffs, as those provided were too tall. Seems they are are no longer providing a Y-splitter cable with this cooler.

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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by callmethebreez99e » Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:21 am

jman311 wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:30 am
Thank you peelos and eyalg for chiming in on my RAM heatsink question. And thanks to everyone else in this thread providing information on upgrading these amazing beasts.

After doing a lot of research I decided to stick with air cooling instead of going the liquid/AIO route. I decided to go with the NH-L9x65 (by a narrow margin over the Corsair H5 SF).

I can confirm the NH-L9x65 works fine with the existing cooler mount/backplate with the use of 10mm standoffs. I did have to conjure up some male M3 thumb screws to fasten the brackets to the standoffs, as those provided were too tall. Seems they are are no longer providing a Y-splitter cable with this cooler.
Are those offsets you mentioned included in the NH-l9x65, or do they have to be purchased separately? If included-- are they the black pieces of plastic (?) I see included in the package contents of that cooler?

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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by rgarjr » Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:04 am

No, the 4 required M3x0.5 8mm or 10mm standoffs are not included in the Noctua kit. Those black nylon spacers you're talking about are used when you use the backmount. Obviously when you use the backmount you have drill out the factory female studs and no standoffs needed.
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TS-1677x-1700 RAM= 64GB Kingston HyperX 2666MHz || SSD= 4 x 860 EVO 500GB || PSU/FAN= Corsair SF600 | 3 x NF-A9 || Noctua NH-L12 cooler with NF-A12x25 | 6 x NF-A6 || NETWORK= Emulex 10GbE SFP+
TVS-682-i7-6700K RAM= 64GB Kingston HyperX 2666MHz || SSD: 1 x 860 EVO 1TB || FAN= 1 x NF-A8 | 4 x NF-A6 | Noctua NH-L12 cooler with NF-A12x25 || NETWORK= Emulex 10GbE SFP+
TVS-682-i7-7700 RAM= 64GB Kingston HyperX 2666MHz || SSD: 1 x 860 EVO 1TB || FAN= 1 x NF-A8 | 4 x NF-A6 | Noctua NH-L12 cooler with NF-A12x25 || NETWORK= Emulex 10GbE SFP+
TVS-682-i3-7100 RAM= 16GB || SSD: 1 x 860 EVO 1TB || HDD: 1 x 2TB Seagate || NETWORK: Emulex 10GbE SFP+
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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by jman311 » Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:59 pm

Exactly. Here is a pic I grabbed of the 10mm standoffs mounted on the original factory mounting plate, with just one of the brackets installed.

So yeeeah now I'm all set to upgrade my CPU ... and of course, prices just went through the roof!
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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by rgarjr » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:38 am

which proc are you planning on putting on there?

TS-1677x-1700 RAM= 64GB Kingston HyperX 2666MHz || SSD= 4 x 860 EVO 500GB || PSU/FAN= Corsair SF600 | 3 x NF-A9 || Noctua NH-L12 cooler with NF-A12x25 | 6 x NF-A6 || NETWORK= Emulex 10GbE SFP+
TVS-682-i7-6700K RAM= 64GB Kingston HyperX 2666MHz || SSD: 1 x 860 EVO 1TB || FAN= 1 x NF-A8 | 4 x NF-A6 | Noctua NH-L12 cooler with NF-A12x25 || NETWORK= Emulex 10GbE SFP+
TVS-682-i7-7700 RAM= 64GB Kingston HyperX 2666MHz || SSD: 1 x 860 EVO 1TB || FAN= 1 x NF-A8 | 4 x NF-A6 | Noctua NH-L12 cooler with NF-A12x25 || NETWORK= Emulex 10GbE SFP+
TVS-682-i3-7100 RAM= 16GB || SSD: 1 x 860 EVO 1TB || HDD: 1 x 2TB Seagate || NETWORK: Emulex 10GbE SFP+
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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by jman311 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:13 am

rgarjr wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:38 am
which proc are you planning on putting on there?
The million dollar question. It came with an i3-7100 ... I'm sure I could do an i7-7700 (currently leaning this way), but I'm still debating the K version. Not in any huge rush now that the 7700K has gone up $100 in the past week.

I have been doing some testing to see how the thermals are with this setup, and I'm convinced the 92mm fan cooler suffers somewhat from being so close to the side panel. I can get about 6C degrees lower peak CPU temps under load with the case top off (albeit a relatively short test as it starts to cook everything else without any airflow, especially the HDDs). So I think I'm going to add an exhaust right over the CPU, I think it will help regardless.

I don't find the stock PSU particularly loud on this thing but it does have (to me) a very annoying pitch. Swapping it for the SF600 PSU in the meantime, my 20-pin cable is in the mail from the UK.
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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by Nightwolf » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:57 pm

jman311 wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:13 am
I don't find the stock PSU particularly loud on this thing but it does have (to me) a very annoying pitch. Swapping it for the SF600 PSU in the meantime, my 20-pin cable is in the mail from the UK.
There will be silence ;)
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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by callmethebreez99e » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:21 am

rgarjr wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 6:04 am
No, the four required M3x0.5 10mm standoffs are not included in the Noctua kit. Those black nylon spacers you're talking about are used when you use the backmount. Obviously when you use the backmount you have drill out the factory female studs and no standoffs needed.
Thanks for the info! I think I have some standoffs left over from a Corsair AIO cpu water cooler laying around.

I haven’t tried taking the motherboard out of my TVS-1282– is it hard to do? It’s a shocking pain in the but to do to a TVS-871.

Are there any coolers that people have experience that fit natively on a TVS 1282? I’ve got one of those Corsair mini itx water coolers on it now... but I dislike that it just sits in there free, and is resting on the ram dimms too. I’d prefer just a normal air cooler that could install directly/use the stock backplate (unless removing the motherboard is easy).

Thanks for the info!

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Re: Brand New TVS-x82T!

Post by jman311 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:14 am

Nightwolf wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:57 pm
jman311 wrote:
Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:13 am
I don't find the stock PSU particularly loud on this thing but it does have (to me) a very annoying pitch. Swapping it for the SF600 PSU in the meantime, my 20-pin cable is in the mail from the UK.
There will be silence ;)
How right you are. It is amazingly quiet now!

When I ordered the QNAP cable there was an option to include the 8pin adapter cable. I wasn't sure if I'd need this as I assumed the SF600 would include it, but it turns out the extra cable was necessary (it connects to one-half of the Corsair CPU 8pin->Type4 CPU header cable).

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