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Hi,

I was interested in the TVS-473 but had a few questions

1) Is WD 8 tb (WD Red Pro 8TB 3.5-Inch SATAIII 7200rpm 128MB Cache NAS Internal Hard Drive (WD8001FFWX) supported? I went through the list but didn't seem to see 8tb for red. Also if I start off my nas with 2x 8tb in raid0 , will I also be able to add other drives ie 2x8tb in raid0 + 2tb drive + 4 tb drive, or how does that work? does it all have to be in raid 0? If I start off my raid with 2x 8tb in raid 0 is the only option adding 2 more 8tb in raid 0?

2) I see the following details for RAM: TVS-473-8G: 8GB DDR4 (2 x 4GB) (For dual- or quad-DIMM configurations, you must use a pair of identical DDR4 modules.)

Since the 473 already comes with 2x4gb, can I upgrade by putting 2x8gb or 2x16gb in addition? or does it all have to be the same and I have to remove the original 2x4gb and expand it will all of the same type of ram?

3) From the software side is there a way to partition or separate the storage space? ie if my kids want to use the server as well but I dont want my information to mix with theirs, something like separate logins for different partitions of the server?


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Hey Philippe,

Thanks for the replies

1) OK yes I will have to ask QNAP then

2) Yes Raid0 is a horrible idea, I actually meant to write Raid1 haha. Raid 5 seems like best idea as you suggest.

If I start with 3 disks and get the space of 2 disks.... but I add one disk later, does it work seamlessly or do I have to backup the data and start from 0 again?

3) Ok , so basically I can set specific folders and then assign user logins to access certain folders correct? I assume this is easy to do within the interface? (I don't know how to use Linux)

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mambino wrote: 2) Yes Raid0 is a horrible idea, I actually meant to write Raid1 haha. Raid 5 seems like best idea as you suggest.

If I start with 3 disks and get the space of 2 disks.... but I add one disk later, does it work seamlessly or do I have to backup the data and start from 0 again?

3) Ok , so basically I can set specific folders and then assign user logins to access certain folders correct? I assume this is easy to do within the interface? (I don't know how to use Linux)
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2) I see the following details for RAM: TVS-473-8G: 8GB DDR4 (2 x 4GB) (For dual- or quad-DIMM configurations, you must use a pair of identical DDR4 modules.)

Since the 473 already comes with 2x4gb, can I upgrade by putting 2x8gb or 2x16gb in addition? or does it all have to be the same and I have to remove the original 2x4gb and expand it will all of the same type of ram?


I tried this by adding 2 X 16, and it wouldn't boot ...... :( :( when i removed the original 2 X 4 ..... everything was fine :roll: :roll:
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Thank you for the information Trexx
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kherr4377 wrote:2) I see the following details for RAM: TVS-473-8G: 8GB DDR4 (2 x 4GB) (For dual- or quad-DIMM configurations, you must use a pair of identical DDR4 modules.)

Since the 473 already comes with 2x4gb, can I upgrade by putting 2x8gb or 2x16gb in addition? or does it all have to be the same and I have to remove the original 2x4gb and expand it will all of the same type of ram?


I tried this by adding 2 X 16, and it wouldn't boot ...... :( :( when i removed the original 2 X 4 ..... everything was fine :roll: :roll:
Wow, does anyone know why this is? I was actually planning to do exactly that - Add 2x 16gb aftermarket ram to the existing 2x4gb
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mambino wrote: Wow, does anyone know why this is? I was actually planning to do exactly that - Add 2x 16gb aftermarket ram to the existing 2x4gb
My guess would be due to having 2x4 1st. Generally if there are different capacity memories, the larger ones need to be the first pair.

My other thought would be slightly different memory timings/config between the 2x4's and 2x16's.
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Ext. (HDD): TR-004 [Raid-5] 4 x 4TB HGST Ultastor
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Yes Philippe is quite correct. Memory Banks are usually used like so

Memory slots: 0+2 and 1+3 or 1+3 and 2+4 - depending on the slot markings.
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Good call out guys, I guess I assumed the memory bank alignment was a given which I should not have.


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Model: TS-877-1600 FW: 4.5.3.x
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so in simple words, if I am buying a TVS 473 with 8gb preloaded, do I have to move around the memory sticks that are already in there if I want to add 2x 16gb? or which slots should I place my 2 new ram sticks in?
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Assuming you buy compatible memory, you should just be able to add the extra DIMMS in the open memory slots.
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Model: TS-877-1600 FW: 4.5.3.x
QTS (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x 1TB WD Blue m.2's
Data (HDD): [RAID-5] 6 x 3TB HGST DeskStar
VMs (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x1TB SK Hynix Gold
Ext. (HDD): TR-004 [Raid-5] 4 x 4TB HGST Ultastor
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury 64GB DDR4-2666
UPS: CP AVR1350

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Sorry, how can I check the ram I am buying will be compatible?
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Buy this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BNJL96A

I have the 16GB kit version and works just fine in my 673.
Paul

Model: TS-877-1600 FW: 4.5.3.x
QTS (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x 1TB WD Blue m.2's
Data (HDD): [RAID-5] 6 x 3TB HGST DeskStar
VMs (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x1TB SK Hynix Gold
Ext. (HDD): TR-004 [Raid-5] 4 x 4TB HGST Ultastor
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury 64GB DDR4-2666
UPS: CP AVR1350

Model:TVS-673 32GB & TS-228a Offline[/color]
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Trexx wrote:Buy this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BNJL96A

I have the 16GB kit version and works just fine in my 673.
Thank you , will be buying these :)
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Does anyone know if the 16 GB version uses 2 x 8 GB SODIMMs or does it use 4 x 4 GB? I really hope they leave a bank of slots open for expansion rather than populate it the cheapest way possible. Being that a 32 GB kit costs about $300, as much as I would like to just max the thing out now, my budget constraints indicate I should probably just get the 16 GB configuration now and then buy a 32 GB kit in a couple of months after I can demonstrate this NAS can do all the things I think it can do. If it does all the wondrous things I hope it can do, I will be able to cut loose a lot of cloud and subscription services I will no longer need!
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