TS-1677XU-RP vs Ts-1677x

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Re: TS-1677XU-RP vs Ts-1677x

Post by Bob Zelin » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:41 pm

Here is the compatibility page for the QM2-4P-384

https://www.qnap.com/en-us/compatibilit ... ategory=23

You are correct, the KC2000's are not listed, so if it does not work - you are on your own.

Nothing wrong with a standard Samsung EVO 970.

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Re: TS-1677XU-RP vs Ts-1677x

Post by Oasis Global » Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:10 pm

Thanks Bob for feedback, much appreciated (Will likely contact u for direct help as our new offices gear up). Since you have installed both the 1677xu-rp and the 1683xu-rp, I may as well ask if you notice a performance difference at all between them? We are looking to buy 2 units for now, one for each office site (Shanghai, Toronto)

Best price I can see for 1677xu-rp (16G version) is $4300 usd
Best price I can see for 1683xu-rp (16G version) is $4850 usd

The $500 price difference is immaterial (Like you, our time is far more important)
We're not stuck on getting intel or amd....we're fine with either.
Both the Shanghai and Toronto site would be used the same way (Just two, not more than 3 video editors will work off the NAS box).

Attitude is more of, okay sure let's save a dollar where we can, but at the same time spending $500 on $9k box+disks we don't mind if there is a corresponding performance benefit for the extra money.

Having read the published specs which are hard to compare, just wondering which way you or folks in this forum might lean based on real-world experience?

Thanks,

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Re: TS-1677XU-RP vs Ts-1677x

Post by firestream » Fri Sep 06, 2019 4:30 am

Bob Zelin wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:41 pm
Here is the compatibility page for the QM2-4P-384

https://www.qnap.com/en-us/compatibilit ... ategory=23

You are correct, the KC2000's are not listed, so if it does not work - you are on your own.

Nothing wrong with a standard Samsung EVO 970.

Bob Zelin
Qnap just listed Kc2000 in the compatibility list, which is the right timing as I just received the 1677xu-RP.

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Re: TS-1677XU-RP vs Ts-1677x

Post by Trexx » Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:17 am

Oasis Global wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:10 pm
Thanks Bob for feedback, much appreciated (Will likely contact u for direct help as our new offices gear up). Since you have installed both the 1677xu-rp and the 1683xu-rp, I may as well ask if you notice a performance difference at all between them? We are looking to buy 2 units for now, one for each office site (Shanghai, Toronto)

Best price I can see for 1677xu-rp (16G version) is $4300 usd
Best price I can see for 1683xu-rp (16G version) is $4850 usd

The $500 price difference is immaterial (Like you, our time is far more important)
We're not stuck on getting intel or amd....we're fine with either.
Both the Shanghai and Toronto site would be used the same way (Just two, not more than 3 video editors will work off the NAS box).

Attitude is more of, okay sure let's save a dollar where we can, but at the same time spending $500 on $9k box+disks we don't mind if there is a corresponding performance benefit for the extra money.

Having read the published specs which are hard to compare, just wondering which way you or folks in this forum might lean based on real-world experience?

Thanks,

Aloysius Lo
Oasis Global Partners

From a pure CPU performance perspective, the Ryzen CPU is much more powerful than the Intel between those 2 CPU's. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/In ... 3432vs3240

Now if you are mainly just using this for a NAS box for your video editors, this likely won't come into play much (if at all) unless your are running VM's / Docker containers on the device as well. For just pure storage use, the CPU probably won't make much (if any) difference.

Bob Zelin can speak much more authoritatively than I can regarding any other real-world differences he has seen between the 2 platforms.
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Re: TS-1677XU-RP vs Ts-1677x

Post by Bob Zelin » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:46 am

meh - I can't speak with much more authority. I have put in both the TS-1677XU-RP and the TS-1683XU-RP. They both perform equally. Some people like Intel - and QNAP puts this on the "enterprise page" - and puts the TS-1677XU-RP on the "SMB" page - so they think that the enterprise page is the "better" system. To me - for video editing applications - its the same box (and the AMD TS-1677XU-RP is cheaper).

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Re: TS-1677XU-RP vs Ts-1677x

Post by firestream » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:27 am

Advice needed.

I have 16 x 12TB HDD and 4 x 1TB Kingston NVMe with QM2-4P-384 with the TS-1677XU-RP

Should I do:
Qtier with 4 x 1 TB on Raid10 , 16 x 12TB on Raid60 , or
Qtier with 4 x 1 TB on Raid5, 16 x 12 TB on Raid60 ?

The main intention of using Qnap is for enterprise file sharing (media files and office archive), backup files and potentially SQL DB for some transaction and photos logging.

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Re: TS-1677XU-RP vs Ts-1677x

Post by Trexx » Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:25 am

I would look here to start.
https://live.qnap.com/en/video/show/461


Also since you are already using NVMe, I doubt raid-10 is going to make a huge difference, and would go raid-5.



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Model: TS-877-1600 FW: 4.4.1.x
QTier (HDD): [RAID-5] 6 x 3TB HGST DeskStar NAS QTier (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x 1TB WD Blue m.2's
(SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x 500GB Evo 860
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury 64GB DDR4-2666
GPU: EVGA GTX 1060, ACX 2.0(1 Fan), 6GB
UPS: CyberPower AVR1350 Ext. Backup: USB 3.0 Seagate 5TB
Media Boxes: Nvidia ShieldTV Pro, AppleTV 4k, Various Roku's

Model: TVS-673 32GB FW: 4.4.1.x Test/Backup Box
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2018 Plex NAS Compatibility Guide | QNAP Plex FAQ | Moogle's QNAP Faq

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Re: TS-1677XU-RP vs Ts-1677x

Post by firestream » Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:10 pm

Trexx wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:25 am
I would look here to start.
https://live.qnap.com/en/video/show/461


Also since you are already using NVMe, I doubt raid-10 is going to make a huge difference, and would go raid-5.



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Thanks for the link. Good info.
By the way, I sort of remember the QTS will be installed on first drive set. How about my case with NVMe drive on QM2 cars? Will it install on those Nvme drive?

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Re: TS-1677XU-RP vs Ts-1677x

Post by firestream » Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:32 pm

Solved the question.

Installed the QM2 only and QTS is automatically installed in the Nvme disk. Now just need to plug in the normal HDD and configure the raid for both ssd and hdd in qtier.

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