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Re: New Specs for x77A

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:16 am
by QNAPDanielFL
"Since we have a Qnap employee on board (QnapDanielFL), could you please let us know if there is a X77A or any other Ryzen successor planned in the near future?"

I am sorry to say that for products not yet announced, I cannot say whether or not we plan on releasing them.

Re: New Specs for x77A

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:32 pm
by occamsrazor
Moogle Stiltzkin wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:09 pm
lots of racks lately. when the desktop ryzen refreshes coming? :shock:
This! Some more rackmount Ryzen NAS announced:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D8c9aotmJg

Thoughts:
1. Bring out new desktop models.
2. For the love of god please put stuff up on the website first rather than a 45min video talk.

Re: New Specs for x77A

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:54 am
by rafale
Agree on request 2... Please stop the announcements on Youtube. I have blocked youtube from my house and it takes way too long to get the information we need and even longer for people to create these videos which are a waste of resources with no added value.

Re: New Specs for x77A

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:30 am
by QNAPDanielFL
I think the reason we don't put the upcoming NAS on our qnap.com website first is that when we put something there, more customers ask us for the product. We need to keep explaining to different customers that even though it is on our website, it may not be out for a few months and they can't order it yet.

Re: New Specs for x77A

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:16 am
by Sushanth.reddy
QNAPDanielFL wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:30 am
I think the reason we don't put the upcoming NAS on our qnap.com website first is that when we put something there, more customers ask us for the product. We need to keep explaining to different customers that even though it is on our website, it may not be out for a few months and they can't order it yet.
Hello Daniel We are waiting for the following refreshes soon.

1)TS-1277
2)TVS-1282T3

They are very good products unfortunately I cannot buy any of them due to old architecture and we have to spend lot of money on it :)

Re: New Specs for x77A

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:47 am
by Sushanth.reddy
Looks like there is going to be a Refresh for TS-1277 by end of the year, I spoke to a QNAP sales Rep and he confirmed that TS-1277 is discontinued :)

Re: New Specs for x77A

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:20 am
by SkyRE
rafale wrote:
Fri Jun 12, 2020 1:54 am
Agree on request 2... Please stop the announcements on Youtube. I have blocked youtube from my house and it takes way too long to get the information we need and even longer for people to create these videos which are a waste of resources with no added value.
++ :D

Re: New Specs for x77A

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 9:43 am
by Moogle Stiltzkin
*wish list ecc support :D

Re: New Specs for x77A

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:38 am
by SkyRE
All x77 models vanished from QNAP site. Pages still available but gone from lists.
On span.com, they all "THIS PRODUCT IS DISCONTINUED"

Re: New Specs for x77A

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:25 am
by SkyRE
Not with Ryzen, but you should get ideas and trends.
https://www.qnap.com/en/news/2020/qnap- ... plications

Re: New Specs for x77A

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:25 pm
by drdope
I'm just wildly guessing, but maybe the TS-x77 were a bit to good for their price bracket?
Maybe they've been phased out, in favor of much more expensive Ryzen-Rack-NAS because they where to much bang for the buck and therefore cannibalizing the sales of much more expensive offerings from QNAP?

Qnap could have easily upgraded the TS-x77 to Ryzen 2x00/3x00 if they wanted to even if the Bios-FlashROM is to small to hold the AMD AGESA-Software Zen/Zen+/Zen2.
This could easily fixed by using different ROMs for different CPU-Types, as done by some other Mainboard-Manufacturers e.g Asus, especially since the CPU is officially non-user-replaceable.

Instead QNAP sadly chose to phase out the TS-x77 Series, without presenting any immediate successor.

We are using a TS-677 (upgraded to R7-1700; 64GB; QM2-2P-384 with 2x 1TB Samsung EVO970/RAID1 as System Drive and 3x 1TB Samsung 860EVO/RAID5 for local Backups) as our small business Server, running seven Win10Pro Clients and two Servers Win10Pro and Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. As we don't need tons of storagespace for that task, the TS-677 was a nearly perfect match for our needs.

A comparable Server from Dell/HP/Lenovo would have cost nearly double the price we have paid in late 2018 for TS-677 not including any VMWare vSphere or Veeam Backup Licenses, which are really expensive too.
In the end we bought two of these machines, connected them via QVPN and use the second TS-677 for nightly offsite replication of our business data and spare machine in case the main system fails for any reason.

You get a lot CPU-Power/RAM-Capacity out of these machines, even matching and in a few cases outmatching much more expensive Intel Xeon NAS.
RAM-wise, if you're bold, you can even try to upgrade them to 128GB RAM:
--> https://translate.google.com/translate? ... 76677.html
As the Ryzen Rx-1x00/2x00 CPUs have an integrated memory controller, this should not be Board/Bios/Firmware issue.

On the other hand, QNAP Support is really sh*tty.
We had a malfunctioning CPU fan (bearing defect; loud as f*ck).
Qnap Germany couldn't supply a fan for exchange, nor could they send a technician (we offered to pay for that) to replace it.

Qnap insisted that the fan is not a user replaceable part and the unit has to be sent in for changing the fan under warranty.
Really funny, 'cause you have to dismount the fan-assembly for memory and/or m2. updates (as described in the user manual).... wtf?

Clearly not an valid option for a device marketed as SB-Server/NAS, as QNAP could not even say if this will take 3 days or 3 weeks or 3 month.
In the end i had to source the replacement fan for the defect Y.S.tech Xtreme BD129733LB from Asia, as they were not available in Europe and northern America.

Re: New Specs for x77A

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:48 pm
by Sushanth.reddy
QNAPDanielFL wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:30 am
I think the reason we don't put the upcoming NAS on our qnap.com website first is that when we put something there, more customers ask us for the product. We need to keep explaining to different customers that even though it is on our website, it may not be out for a few months and they can't order it yet.
Daniel,

Since x77 is completely out of picture now, Any update on when the refresh is coming up ?

Re: New Specs for x77A

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:42 am
by QNAPDanielFL
We hear that people like this the 77 series NAS. And that is not surprising since it is a good product with a very capable CPU. I am sorry to say that we don't always give information on future products. So I can't at this time answer your question.

Re: New Specs for x77A

Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:13 am
by QNAPDanielFL
I was just informed that I can say that the next generation of the 77 series will be coming soon.

EDIT: Sorry everyone, here is a correction. We currently do not have a plan to update the 77 tower series.

Re: New Specs for x77A

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:38 pm
by rarora
Any timeframe?