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HBS 3 Hybrid Backup Sync 3.0.191016 Released

Post by Toxic17 » Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:01 pm

yes, more fixes.

HBS 3 Hybrid Backup Sync 3.0.191016 ( 2019/10/17 )

[Fixed Issues]
  • Fixed an issue where restore jobs would fail under certain circumstances.
  • Fixed an issue with a general setting option that would occur when editing jobs.
  • Fixed an issue with the multi-version setting option for restore jobs.
  • Fixed an issue involving two-way cloud synchronization that would occur when updating HBS under certain circumstances.

[Enhancements]
  • Removed support of Softlayer due to Softlayer stops to support service.
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Re: HBS 3 Hybrid Backup Sync 3.0.191016 Released

Post by jsteng » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:14 am

Will this latest release maintain existing Smart Versioning?
Or will it trash em all, start fresh anew?

I already lost months worth of smart version backups in previous update.
I dont wanna throw away my 6 weeks worth of smart version backups.

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Re: HBS 3 Hybrid Backup Sync 3.0.191016 Released

Post by Samsonite79 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 12:56 am

Yea... sadly they're doing the same, what a waste of backup time and effort. Can qnap fix this? I want my old versions back so I can continue updating my backups instead of starting a new one....

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Re: HBS 3 Hybrid Backup Sync 3.0.191016 Released

Post by lmib2006 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:06 pm

Hello
With the new HBS3 version (3.0.191016) i still have the same problem.
All the RTRR (Loca Backup) jobs using Versioning and WITHOUT QuDedup keeps at 0% forever :x .
Are there a way to user Versioning WITHOUT QuDedup now?.
If try to make a new job (from one disk to another in NAS) using versioning i was forced to use QuDedup :cry: .
QuDedup is a great idea, but should be OPTIONAL. Deduplication uses a lot of CPU and Disk resources and not make sense in Small SOHO NASes.
I openned a Support Case with QNAP but after 2 weeks still researching...
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Re: HBS 3 Hybrid Backup Sync 3.0.191016 Released

Post by janwer » Mon Oct 28, 2019 1:13 pm

Why don't we move to more stable backup solution?
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Re: HBS 3 Hybrid Backup Sync 3.0.191016 Released

Post by rastabore » Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:03 am

How can I decrypt my files if I have set up a 'sync' job with encryption for the cloud? What is the use of a synchronisation folder if I can't download or reverse sync and decrypt the files from the cloud when they are destroyed or overwritten locally?

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Re: HBS 3 Hybrid Backup Sync 3.0.191016 Released

Post by P3R » Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:52 am

lmib2006 wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:06 pm
Are there a way to user Versioning WITHOUT QuDedup now?.
As far as I know only with jobs created with previous HBS-versions that was sucessfully converted or when you use an older Qnap with an older HBS version as that is said to not support QuDedup.

One job converted okay for me (versioned backup to locally attached USB-disk) and the other job (versioned backup to other Qnap) just stalled.
QuDedup is a great idea, but should be OPTIONAL.
Yes! That's what I've been saying as well since the first day I started using HBS3.
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!

A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.

All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!

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Re: HBS 3 Hybrid Backup Sync 3.0.191016 Released

Post by alokeprasad » Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:26 am

Why is QuDedup a good idea, unless you are short of space on the backup destination?
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Re: HBS 3 Hybrid Backup Sync 3.0.191016 Released

Post by P3R » Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:15 pm

alokeprasad wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 9:26 am
Why is QuDedup a good idea, unless you are short of space on the backup destination?
It isn't but that's like asking why is data storage a good thing if you have no data to store?

The two biggest issues with backups that many (most?) administrators have to deal with are (probably in this order):
  1. Space shortage on the backup destination.
  2. Backups are too slow.
QuDedup, at least on paper (I haven't really used it except for a few short tests), improves the situation with both issues.

I personally don't want to use QuDedup because of the disadvantages (proprietary format, loss of administrative freedom and control) but if I had either of the previously mentioned issues (that many other administrators have) I would be a QuDedup user.

Remember that a very large majority of other backup solutions on the market have the same advantages and disadvantages. Of course it is a great feature to add for those that need it. The only (but big) problem is that Qnap made QuDedup mandatory and removed the (almost) unique feature of non-proprietary backups that they have had for many years in all their previous backup solutions.
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!

A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.

All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!

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Re: HBS 3 Hybrid Backup Sync 3.0.191016 Released

Post by lmib2006 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:05 am

Hello
I have news about the Support Case i have open with QNAP Support:
"...Our team has verified the issue is fixed with Hybrid Backup Sync version 3.0.191104 and later version.
Please wait for new version release..."
This version still not release. Hope this new HBS3 version will solve the issue with versioning and backup :D

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Re: HBS 3 Hybrid Backup Sync 3.0.191016 Released

Post by P3R » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:20 am

The risk is that they've ironed out more bugs but still don't allow non-QuDedup backups. I won't get my hope up until I see a specific promise of a change or a positive release note.
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!

A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.

All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!

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Re: HBS 3 Hybrid Backup Sync 3.0.191016 Released

Post by Cubbies » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:08 am

Hello Everyone. I have a question, Will HBS 3 defrag an external USB drive if left plugged in after sync jobs?

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Re: HBS 3 Hybrid Backup Sync 3.0.191016 Released

Post by alokeprasad » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:55 am

I doubt it. I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere and most Backup software don't do this. It is more of an OS activity.
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Re: HBS 3 Hybrid Backup Sync 3.0.191016 Released

Post by P3R » Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:18 pm

alokeprasad wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:55 am
I doubt it. I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere and most Backup software don't do this. It is more of an OS activity.
I would have said exactly the same.

In addition to that a backup is mostly large sequential writes so it won't become as fragmented or suffer from the consequences of it nearly as much as an OS disk. If one is worried about fragmentation it can be done by clearing the disk and do the backup from scratch once in a while, like every 12-24 months.
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!

A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.

All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!

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