SEAGATE ST8000VN0022 Iron Wolf 8TB HDD and TS-219P II

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SEAGATE ST8000VN0022 Iron Wolf 8TB HDD and TS-219P II

Postby markoko » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:29 pm

Hello,

can please someone confirm I do NOT need a corresponding hard drive tray to install SEAGATE ST8000VN0022 Iron Wolf 8TB HDDs into my TS-219P II ?
Thank you!

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Re: SEAGATE ST8000VN0022 Iron Wolf 8TB HDD and TS-219P II

Postby storageman » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:42 pm

Did you look at compat list? Disk not supported and max 6TB

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Re: SEAGATE ST8000VN0022 Iron Wolf 8TB HDD and TS-219P II

Postby fredtsai » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:43 pm

In case you will be making Raid1 for your 2 Bay TS-219, I think it is recommended to use corresponding hard disks. However, I think it is not always a must though.

I am not 100% sure about this, but if NOT using corresponding hard drives in an array, I think it will cause performance issue, and probably you won't be able to utilize the full capacity of your disks. I do have corresponding disks in my TS-451 and TS-653A, but I also have NVR that I made Raid1 and Raid5 with mixed up disks from WD and Seagate. I think it will work as your demand but I will a bit worry on the disks life though (in my NVR I simply put all of my old hard disks in it and made them in Raid1 and Raid5, which I really don't mind if any of those disks fails).

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    TS-451 8GB Memory FW: 4.3.3.0299 Build 20170901 - As company data server
    4 disks in Raid5 (Seagate Ironwolf 10T*2, Seagate Ironwolf 4T*2, gradually upgrading)
    Services / OpenVPN server / Notes Station / Surveillance Station / Qsirch / Cloud Drive Sync
    / Unifi Controller /
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    TS-653A 8GB Memory FW: 4.3.3.0299 Build 20170901 - As personal media server
    5 disks in Raid5 (Seagate Ironwolf 4T*5, gradually upgrading)
    Services / Notes Station / Surveillance Station / Plex Media Server / Backup Station
    / Cloud Drive Sync / Download Station /
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Re: SEAGATE ST8000VN0022 Iron Wolf 8TB HDD and TS-219P II

Postby fredtsai » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:49 pm

I checked the list, TS-219P II should be able to accept even up to 10T disks. For TS-219P II, the maximum capacity for a single volume is 16T.

In case of markoko is not doing Raid0 he should be fine I think.
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    TS-451 8GB Memory FW: 4.3.3.0299 Build 20170901 - As company data server
    4 disks in Raid5 (Seagate Ironwolf 10T*2, Seagate Ironwolf 4T*2, gradually upgrading)
    Services / OpenVPN server / Notes Station / Surveillance Station / Qsirch / Cloud Drive Sync
    / Unifi Controller /
==============================================================
    TS-653A 8GB Memory FW: 4.3.3.0299 Build 20170901 - As personal media server
    5 disks in Raid5 (Seagate Ironwolf 4T*5, gradually upgrading)
    Services / Notes Station / Surveillance Station / Plex Media Server / Backup Station
    / Cloud Drive Sync / Download Station /
==============================================================

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Re: SEAGATE ST8000VN0022 Iron Wolf 8TB HDD and TS-219P II

Postby Moogle Stiltzkin » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:55 pm

on compatibility list the

wolf 8tb is listed

TS-219P II
Seagate ST8000VN0022
As suggested by certain hard disk drive providers, the hard disk drives of the same brand and series are collectively recognized as compatible with QNAP products if the largest-capacity drive has passed the compatibility test.

https://www.qnap.com/en-us/compatibilit ... category=1
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Re: SEAGATE ST8000VN0022 Iron Wolf 8TB HDD and TS-219P II

Postby markoko » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:11 pm

Thank you all! :)

According to compatibility list I think I should be fine... will upgrade my RAID1 3TB configuration with these 8TB discs...
BTW here in Austria one can get TS-453A which has same SEAGATE ST8000VN0022 Iron Wolf 8TB discs pre-installed!
More at (in German language)
https://www.cyberport.at/qnap-ts-453a-8 ... 11409.html

Thank you again!
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Re: SEAGATE ST8000VN0022 Iron Wolf 8TB HDD and TS-219P II

Postby dolbyman » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:22 pm

just because system builders make those kits,doesn't mean they are a good fit

lots of st dm drives sold in kits..bad idea

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Re: SEAGATE ST8000VN0022 Iron Wolf 8TB HDD and TS-219P II

Postby P3R » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:34 am

markoko wrote:BTW here in Austria one can get TS-453A which has same SEAGATE ST8000VN0022 Iron Wolf 8TB discs pre-installed!
More at (in German language)
https://www.cyberport.at/qnap-ts-453a-8 ... 11409.html
Qnap don't sell NASes with disks included. Some resellers do but that's unfortunately not any proof the disks are compatible. There are plenty of incompetent resellers out there. Anyway the disk you mention is listed as compatible in your NAS model so that shouldn't be an issue.

I believe however that your question was actually about the disk trays and yes, you do need new trays for that NAS model as explained here.
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!

A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.

All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!

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Re: SEAGATE ST8000VN0022 Iron Wolf 8TB HDD and TS-219P II

Postby markoko » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:15 am

I have just bought 2x SEAGATE ST8000VN0022 Iron Wolf 8TB HDD...

1st drive is almost done with rebuilding... so far there are no problems.
Unfortunately I missed the info re trays...
https://www.qnap.com/en-us/compatibilit ... category=1 does not show information you shared...?

.. this is why I tightened disc with 2 screws only...

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Re: SEAGATE ST8000VN0022 Iron Wolf 8TB HDD and TS-219P II

Postby P3R » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:49 am

markoko wrote:Unfortunately I missed the info re trays...
https://www.qnap.com/en-us/compatibilit ... category=1 does not show information you shared...?
Yes unfortunately the Qnap disk compatibility list is far from perfect, but it's what we have. :roll:

With that list as a starting point and then double-checking in the forum, most disk recommendations can be solved.
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!

A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.

All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!

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Re: SEAGATE ST8000VN0022 Iron Wolf 8TB HDD and TS-219P II

Postby markoko » Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:13 pm

Both new disks are up and running! :) Fingers crossed, so far so good.
Thank you all!


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