Tvs-682 Upgrade

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Re: Tvs-682 Upgrade

Postby Cbrad01 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:38 am

Hi, when I upgraded mine the only issue I had was heat. As noted earlier in the posts I went overkill on the m.2 drives which caused my heat issues I think. On the cpu I stayed with a model that was close to the orgianl thermal spec to avoid the issues there and have been happy with the results. Stay with the same prod family line and you should be good.

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Re: Tvs-682 Upgrade

Postby Don » Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:35 am

Read the Online Manuals and use the forum search feature before posting.

It is a recommended to use RAID and have external backups. RAID will protect you from disk failure, keep your system running, and data accessible while the disk is replaced and the RAID rebuilt. Backups will allow you to recover data that is lost or corrupted, or from system failure. One does not replace the other.

Submit bugs and feature requests to QNAP via their Helpdesk app.

NAS: TVS-882BR | F/W: 4.3.5.0728 | 40GB | 2 x M.2 SATA RAID 1 (System) | 4 x M.2 NMVe QM2-4P-384A RAID 5 (Cache) | 5 x 4TB HDD RAID 6 (Data) | 1 x Blu-ray
NAS: TVS-663 | F/W: 4.3.5.0728 | 16GB | 2 x M.2 NMVe QM2-2P RAID 1 (Cache) | 4 x 4TB RAID 5
Apps: Boinc, Squid, DNSMasq, PLEX, iDrive, QVPN, QLMS, MP3fs, HBS, Entware, DLstation, +others

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Re: Tvs-682 Upgrade

Postby OneCD » Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:54 am

Don wrote:Stay away from the 7700K. See here viewtopic.php?f=84&t=137205&p=650153&hilit=7700k#p650153

@Don, I don't think it's fair (in that linked thread) to call that a "known issue", when it's actually expected behaviour. Intel confirmed this.

My own 7700K in my desktop machine has done this since I purchased it last year - when the CPU has to work hard, the temperature goes up - and so does the fan speed. My own system board is set to a 'quiet' fan profile, so I get these sudden short-term speedups whenever I do something like launch a web-browser. It's perfectly normal.

I was (quite frankly) surprised you chose to 'fix' yours by installing a slower CPU. :S

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Re: Tvs-682 Upgrade

Postby netaddict » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:19 pm

Well, I ordered i7-7700K a few days ago and it will arrive soon. Should I liquid cool the CPU?

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Re: Tvs-682 Upgrade

Postby Don » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:29 pm

I chose to replace the CPU because I didn’t think the constant spin up and spin down of the fans was normal. A processor shouldn’t have a temperature spike just opening a web page. Why is it that only the K models exhibit this? It may be working as Intel designed but I think it is a poor design so I decided to downgrade. I am very happy with the 7700. I run boinc which is cpu intensive and have it set to utilize about 50% of the CPU. The temperature is in the upper 50 degree C range with no wild spikes and CPU fan speed about 750RPM.
Read the Online Manuals and use the forum search feature before posting.

It is a recommended to use RAID and have external backups. RAID will protect you from disk failure, keep your system running, and data accessible while the disk is replaced and the RAID rebuilt. Backups will allow you to recover data that is lost or corrupted, or from system failure. One does not replace the other.

Submit bugs and feature requests to QNAP via their Helpdesk app.

NAS: TVS-882BR | F/W: 4.3.5.0728 | 40GB | 2 x M.2 SATA RAID 1 (System) | 4 x M.2 NMVe QM2-4P-384A RAID 5 (Cache) | 5 x 4TB HDD RAID 6 (Data) | 1 x Blu-ray
NAS: TVS-663 | F/W: 4.3.5.0728 | 16GB | 2 x M.2 NMVe QM2-2P RAID 1 (Cache) | 4 x 4TB RAID 5
Apps: Boinc, Squid, DNSMasq, PLEX, iDrive, QVPN, QLMS, MP3fs, HBS, Entware, DLstation, +others

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Re: Tvs-682 Upgrade

Postby dolbyman » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:35 pm

off-topic
if you run boinc ..you can collect gridcoin .. offsets the power usage a bit ..at least here in canada (cheap power)

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Re: Tvs-682 Upgrade

Postby Don » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:40 pm

dolbyman wrote:off-topic
if you run boinc ..you can collect gridcoin .. offsets the power usage a bit ..at least here in canada (cheap power)

Tell me how. I have boinc running on multiple systems.
Read the Online Manuals and use the forum search feature before posting.

It is a recommended to use RAID and have external backups. RAID will protect you from disk failure, keep your system running, and data accessible while the disk is replaced and the RAID rebuilt. Backups will allow you to recover data that is lost or corrupted, or from system failure. One does not replace the other.

Submit bugs and feature requests to QNAP via their Helpdesk app.

NAS: TVS-882BR | F/W: 4.3.5.0728 | 40GB | 2 x M.2 SATA RAID 1 (System) | 4 x M.2 NMVe QM2-4P-384A RAID 5 (Cache) | 5 x 4TB HDD RAID 6 (Data) | 1 x Blu-ray
NAS: TVS-663 | F/W: 4.3.5.0728 | 16GB | 2 x M.2 NMVe QM2-2P RAID 1 (Cache) | 4 x 4TB RAID 5
Apps: Boinc, Squid, DNSMasq, PLEX, iDrive, QVPN, QLMS, MP3fs, HBS, Entware, DLstation, +others

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Re: Tvs-682 Upgrade

Postby dolbyman » Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:38 pm

no secret sauce

go here:
https://www.gridcoin.us/

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Re: Tvs-682 Upgrade

Postby OneCD » Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:05 pm

Don wrote:Why is it that only the K models exhibit this? It may be working as Intel designed but I think it is a poor design so I decided to downgrade. I am very happy with the 7700. I run boinc which is cpu intensive and have it set to utilize about 50% of the CPU. The temperature is in the upper 50 degree C range with no wild spikes and CPU fan speed about 750RPM.

Ah, kinda like buying a 5.0L Ford Mustang, but then not liking how it makes a loud noise when you hit the gas. So, you swapped it for a 2.5L Hyundai Excel. Well, I guess there's a market for those too. :wink:

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Re: Tvs-682 Upgrade

Postby Mulders84 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:33 pm

Nope no Need to drill...

Just order a standoff's from ali express.
How ever i just upgraded my TVS 682 with an I7 6700.
at first i used the stock cooler and idle it ran at 43 degrees and at my normal(not full normal but a little less) workload 68 degrees.. i did not push it too hard.

That was a bit to hot for me so i read up on replacing it with a cooler and bought the NH-L9x65 "Vassoura" stated that his NH-L12 needed 8 mm standoofs and it would fit.

so i got a standoff pack from ali express (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/200pcs-M3-PCB-Hex-Male-Female-Thread-Brass-Spacer-Standoffs-Screw-Hex-Nut-Assortment-set-Kits/32773674763.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.YfeoRY). I was in luck to get the pack with diferent sizes because, the 8 mm standoffs won't fit its to tight on the CPU but, i can confirm that the 10 MM fits perfectly. Original cooler is stil in place..

Temperature running smoothly on 36 degrees idle and 55 on my normal(a little more than normal actually) workload 3 days now and still stable..

I added 2 extra fans in the back of the cpu side of the case for extra air outtake.
(i did try it with the stock cooler but is was no more that 3 degrees cooler)

Have fun upgrading :twisted:

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I successfully installed G.Skill memory (DDR4 - 3200 MHz (PC4 - 25600), 32 GB (16GBx2), CL14 - 14 - 14 - 34, the Red Version), but they are taller than the original one.
So it's not possible to use the original fan anymore.
I bought the Noctua NH-L9x65, which SEEMS to be perfect.
Sadly it's not compatible with previous screws that are SOLDERED to the MB support.
I disassembled the whole NAS, some drill skills (remove previous supports, enlarge holes on the original metallic part, install Noctua backplate) and i reassembled everything.
The new cooler fits perfectly. Too much. The fan is so much near to the cover, so i will modify it drilling few holes in the case.
I'm happy with result but I suggest to not to do it.
It's a big work for a problem that you solve putting a 6X6 fan vertically between original cooler and ram.
Do not change cooler, or find a new one compatible with same original screws.

GM


Bought and attempted to install the Noctua NH-L9x65 but was unsuccessful because of the built in mounts from the chassis that are used to screw the CPU heat sink to. As mentioned above with out drilling out the pressed in studs it is not possible to swap out the stock heatsink with the Noctua NH-L9x65. Not sure if there is another heatsink that is compatible but for now will stay with the stock cooler. If it gets too hot under heavy load or ambient heat in summer I may add a additional fan to cool things down.

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Re: Tvs-682 Upgrade

Postby lunde_deluxe » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:13 pm

Hi, anyone knows if a i5-8400 or an i7-8700 will fitt into tvs-882?
I am about to upgrade, so I want to be sure for what to buy

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Re: Tvs-682 Upgrade

Postby Don » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:30 pm

I believe you need to stick with the generation that the board was designed for.
Read the Online Manuals and use the forum search feature before posting.

It is a recommended to use RAID and have external backups. RAID will protect you from disk failure, keep your system running, and data accessible while the disk is replaced and the RAID rebuilt. Backups will allow you to recover data that is lost or corrupted, or from system failure. One does not replace the other.

Submit bugs and feature requests to QNAP via their Helpdesk app.

NAS: TVS-882BR | F/W: 4.3.5.0728 | 40GB | 2 x M.2 SATA RAID 1 (System) | 4 x M.2 NMVe QM2-4P-384A RAID 5 (Cache) | 5 x 4TB HDD RAID 6 (Data) | 1 x Blu-ray
NAS: TVS-663 | F/W: 4.3.5.0728 | 16GB | 2 x M.2 NMVe QM2-2P RAID 1 (Cache) | 4 x 4TB RAID 5
Apps: Boinc, Squid, DNSMasq, PLEX, iDrive, QVPN, QLMS, MP3fs, HBS, Entware, DLstation, +others

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Re: Tvs-682 Upgrade

Postby lunde_deluxe » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:45 pm

You are probably right.
I just saw some people who had success with an I7-7700 in their tvs-882 born with Ix-6XXX model.

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Re: Tvs-682 Upgrade

Postby lunde_deluxe » Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:38 pm

So I ended up buying a Intel i7-7700, and I am really satisfied with this! Its running with the passive stock cooler from Qnap and with 4 VMs, Plex transcoding and QVR Pro running 5 Cameras, it is 48 degrees Celsius :)
Really nice CPU!

And in addition to that, my VMs now running much faster on the drives! Crystal Disk Mark is now running 3,5GB Read/s, from 2,5GB Read/s before

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Re: Tvs-682 Upgrade

Postby SUBnet192 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:31 am

lunde_deluxe wrote:So I ended up buying a Intel i7-7700, and I am really satisfied with this! Its running with the passive stock cooler from Qnap and with 4 VMs, Plex transcoding and QVR Pro running 5 Cameras, it is 48 degrees Celsius :)
Really nice CPU!

And in addition to that, my VMs now running much faster on the drives! Crystal Disk Mark is now running 3,5GB Read/s, from 2,5GB Read/s before


What was the part number you bought for the CPU?


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