External HDD's for TS-119

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External HDD's for TS-119

Post by cosmicp » Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:51 pm

I've tried to search in the forum and the doc's, but I'm still somewhat confused regarding HDD compatibility for my TS-119.
Do I assume correctly that the HDD compatibility list refers to both internal and external disks?
Is it correct that I can't use a 2.5" external disk?
Does the NAS support disks which receives its power supply only from the USB cable? That is, can the NAS supply enough power to the disk?

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Re: External HDD's for TS-119

Post by cosmicp » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:06 pm

Additional info:
In the manual M_Turbo NAS hardware manual from year 2010, it says that 2.5-inch SATA HDD is NOT supported in model TS-119.

BUT
On https://www.qnap.com/en/compatibility/? ... category=4, Recommended External Storage Device for TS-119, this 2.5" external disk is listed:
Seagate ExpansionProtable 2TB (STEA2000400) USB3.0

This 2.5" disk is power supplied only through the USB 3.0 cable.

I'm utterly interested to know how to interpret this?

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Re: External HDD's for TS-119

Post by dolbyman » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:42 pm

ports on that nas a regular usb 2.0, they do supply power and the nas does not know if it is 3.5,2.5 or solid state

you are way overthinking this, just get an external drive and plug it in

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Re: External HDD's for TS-119

Post by cosmicp » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:54 am

Thanks dolbyman for trustful response. Yes, I may be overthinking this, but I felt concerned over the statement in the manual regarding 2.5" disks.

Besides, I recently got somewhat burned, buying a Seagate Barracuda 1TB SATA 3.5 disk and intended to place it in an existing external case I have, which had housed an old 1TB SATA disk which had died. It didn't work. The disk, attached internally in my computer, worked fine, but not as external disk mounted in the case. Obviously the interface in the case was too old (>10 years) for this new disk. Anyway, a new Seagate Expansion Harddisk STEA2000400 2TB USB 3.0 2.5" is now on its way...

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Re: External HDD's for TS-119

Post by dolbyman » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:03 am

I have 8TB backup drives attached to my 419p+

they work fine

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Re: External HDD's for TS-119

Post by cosmicp » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:58 am

An issue related to this...
I just moved a new Seagate 4TB SATA disk (ST4000VM000) to an FreeAgent external case (7 years old - a different case than the one I mentioned in my previous posts) (yes, I'm fuzzing with a lot of disks right now...).
Lo and behold: also this disk refuses to work with the FreeAgent case. What is this? Too old cases for new disks? Coded board in case for only certain disks? The previous disk in this case was a 1.5TB Seagate Barracuda LP SATA disk. So I use same brand, but still doesn't work. I'm puzzled.

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Re: External HDD's for TS-119

Post by dolbyman » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:24 am

depends to the sata to usb controller chip if it supports drives of given size

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Re: External HDD's for TS-119

Post by albumman » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:42 am

I use WD 2TB Passport drives connected to the rear USB3 ports and work flawlessly on my old TS-212P. Not sure if your 119 has similar hardware.
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Re: External HDD's for TS-119

Post by cosmicp » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:47 am

dolbyman - It seems like that. So I thought then that instead mounting the new smaller Seagate 1TB SATA disk in the old FreeAgent external case, which previously hold a 1.5TB Seagate Barracuda LP SATA disk, would work. It did. So now it serves as a replacement external USB disk instead of the internal disk in the LG DVD recorder which got fried - yes, literally; half of the power contacs on the disk were burnt, as well as some areas on the disk board and the metal disk carrier. Interesting. But the system board in the player was saved so now the player is alive again.

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Re: External HDD's for TS-119

Post by cosmicp » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:01 pm

albumman -Unfortunately, the TS-119 has only USB 2.0 ports. So I would prefer using a SATA disk via the eSATA port. Only, external disks with eSATA are virtrually impossible to find any longer (at least in Sweden), as USB 3 is almost as fast, and saeeminly a cheaper interface. So I guess I have to buy a separate enclosure with eSATA - those are still on the market.

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Re: External HDD's for TS-119

Post by albumman » Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:35 pm

cosmicp wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:01 pm
albumman -Unfortunately, the TS-119 has only USB 2.0 ports. So I would prefer using a SATA disk via the eSATA port. Only, external disks with eSATA are virtrually impossible to find any longer (at least in Sweden), as USB 3 is almost as fast, and saeeminly a cheaper interface. So I guess I have to buy a separate enclosure with eSATA - those are still on the market.
Another solution that I forgot about, and used to use, is a dock like this. Makes it easy to snap in various drives without an enclosure.
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Re: External HDD's for TS-119

Post by cosmicp » Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:54 pm

Yes, I noticed those. Don't know why, but it feels a bit... vulnerable.
I believe I found what I looked for though:
https://www.computersalg.se/i/108611/fa ... #specsarea
OR
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fantec-1479-DB ... =1-58&th=1

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Re: External HDD's for TS-119

Post by dolbyman » Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:00 am

in my experience..usb 2.0 vs esata makes not much difference on x19 units...the processor limits the speed so much that the speed gain is marginal at best

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Re: External HDD's for TS-119

Post by cosmicp » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:53 am

dolbyman - Is that true... Hmmmmpff. Well, for now the TS-119 serves our needs here, but who knows - in future I may swap to a more speedy monster... I notice there are quite a few QNAP NAS models. Will have a glance at them.

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