TS-873A-8G HDMI Output

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TS-873A-8G HDMI Output

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I am looking at getting a TS-873A-8G but I will need to connect it to a monitor via HDMI. In the data sheet it says... HDMI Output Optional via a PCIe adapter, can this be any adaptor or is there a QNAP one?
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See here
https://www.qnap.com/en/compatibility/? ... ategory=25
(QNAP makes no GPUs)

hope you are not trying to use the NAS as a player
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NVidia Quadro cards are good alternatives. Compact (single slot as opposed to some GeForce counterparts), powerful, low power consumption.
Depending on your budget you can start with P400, P600, P620, T400 or T600.

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Hmm... would any of these also support hardware transcoding? (Not sure if that's what the OP has in mind)
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NVIDIA and INTEL igpu are common used for hardware transcoding .. so NVIDIA (on that AMD CPU unit) should work just fine for that

Also the Quardo cards are often mentioned in Plex builds
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What size PCIe slots (physically) are on the TS-873A-8G? I am not asking how many lanes -- I know it's wired for x4 -- I am asking for the physical slot size. I asked QNAP Sales (during the course of a related conversation) and did not get an answer. Product documentation does not say, and every public review I've seen does not discuss it or show high enough resolution photos. The best I could find is https://www.servethehome.com/wp-content ... -Slots.jpg and https://nascompares.com/wp-content/uplo ... view-6.jpg which looks to me like a PCIe x8 slot, but the photos are taken at an angle rather than head-on.

Why this matters: all 4 cards shown in the GPGPU compatibility chart for the TS-873A-8G are PCIe x16 cards; you can tell from the photos (length of edge connector):

- MSI GTX1650 4GT LP OC: https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeFor ... cification
- ZOTAC GAMING GeForce GTX 1650 LP 4GB: https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphi ... ofile#spec
- ASUS PH-GTX1050TI-4G: https://www.asus.com/motherboards-compo ... 1050ti-4g/
- MSI Geforce GT1030 2G LP OC: https://www.msi.com/Graphics-Card/GeFor ... cification
- Gigabyte GV-N1030D5-2GL Low Profile: https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/ ... 0D5-2GL#kf

Please note that I'm aware the physical PCIe slot on the NAS has the end of the slot cut out so you can install a longer-than-the-slot card (and will operate based on however many lanes there are wired). However, for this to work, the physical motherboard must not have any components in the way that could potentially block the "hanging-off-the-slot" part of the card. It looks to me like there's an IC in the way which could block a full-length x16 card (thus requiring an x8/x4/x1 card instead).

Can anyone confirm/verify that PCIe x16 cards actually fit in this system and don't touch MB components? The product documentation should really say "PCIe x8 slot (operating at x4 speed)" or the like. Thanks.

Footnote: I am not asking this question with regards to transcoding, only to get a general VGA framebuffer for being able to see BIOS/UEFI screen and boot alternate media (i.e. memtest86+ off USB flash).
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Open a ticket with QNAP then, if QNAP has these cards in the compatibility list, you would think, they should fit (although with QNAP you never know)
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dolbyman wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:08 am Open a ticket with QNAP then, if QNAP has these cards in the compatibility list, you would think, they should fit (although with QNAP you never know)
Or I could just spent over a thousand USD to take photos that benefit the entire community.

Both PCIe slots are 8x in size, both wired for x4 lanes. However, only one of the slots can support an x16 card; the other is blocked by chassis metal (thus only supports an 8x card).

The slot that supports x16 has extremely close clearance to both the chassis and an underlying IC, but no contact is made. (I was concerned more about the IC than I was the chassis.)

This information should really be presented in the product specifications and data sheet. QNAP, are you listening?
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koitsu wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 5:03 am This information should really be presented in the product specifications and data sheet. QNAP, are you listening?
No... QNAP does not come here, if you want to complain, open a ticket with them
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