Seagate 8TB ST8000AS0002; oh baby; but wait? maybe?

[tc_]

Segates 8TB new low-cost (Shingled) 3.5 Sata HDD Model ST8000AS0002 is coming out.

does Qnap recommended it or not? Lets hope Qnap gets there hands on it. cheap $250-300 for 8TB.

My understanding this is for people that typically dont delete files but to store files and leave them there. Cloud computers (for those others, NAS/computers that have a internet network connection haha).

It writes data ontop of other data like how shingles works. its different.

but maybe not good for those that may delete a file here or there, or delete a bunch of files.

Thoughts?

[pwilson]

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-dri ... mber-2014/

Let's just leave that here. You can ponder how that scales for your data with the increasing capacity.

Why didn't you simply provide the image in your message?



I'm sure Western Digital and/or HGST (which is also WD) will release some large drives next year too. I'll wait for WD offerings thanks.

[dsmithdewarcom]

does Qnap recommended it or not?

Seagate does not recommend it for NAS.

Archive HDDs are not intended for surveillance or NAS applications, and you may experience lower performance in these environments. For these applications, Seagate NAS HDDs and Seagate Surveillance HDDs are suggested for better performance and reliability.

[Nees]

You could of course put these drives in your "old" NAS, if you have one, as single disk volumes and use it as backup.

Found them on a german site for less then 250eur.

[johnripper]

I'm sure Western Digital and/or HGST (which is also WD) will release some large drives next year too. I'll wait for WD offerings thanks.

That's the result of using consumer drives in a non consumer environment. Looks like you don't feel ashamed using every argument ..

I call you "Propaganda Patrick" from now on

[Nees]

What is actually funnier, a post I came across recently when looking for info about the RED and RED Pro dives, was this.

http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?p=275923#p275923

Western Digital Corporation will never see another penny from me. Ever!

And now he is waiting for the WD solution.
Funny how people can make a 180° turn on their own opinion.

Tbh, I'm not to fond on Seagate either, but for such low price and just for backup... I don't think you can go wrong with that.

[dsmithdewarcom]

You can *always* go wrong. That's the joy of hard drive roulette.

[Nees]

Not really "you", but rather "it". The "you" part is that you never know when "it" goes wrong

[Gradius]

This is ALL pointless as Western Digital acquired HGST (Hitachi Global Storage Technologies) back in 2011 (and was conclued in March, 8, 2012):
http://www.hgst.com/about-hgst-storage/employment

More:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HGST

We only have two choices.

And sorry for the bump.

[smlick]

Performance is not the goal of this unit....but the performance for multimedia library and a general data archive is ok!
Someone tested this unit in a QNAP? Does it work?

Regards
Alessio

[forkless]

That you don't want performance is one thing, however having a modicum of reliability is something you should aim for. Larger is not always better. WD Red are a lot more suited for NAS usage do to the TLER algorithm on the drive firmwares. It prevents drives from dropping out of arrays due to more resilient retry mechanisms.

You are ofcourse free to put in your NAS whatever your choose. Technically it should operate on 8TB drives, how stable it will be on those drives is another question altogether.

Anyways if you choose to use them I can only say, enjoy your Seagate Roulette

[johnripper]

Sorry but u totally missed the point.
Its not fact of seagate or wd but if these drives are suitable for RAID usage or not.
The archive is not because it doesnt have TELR (dont know how seagate calls it). Would be the same if you use WD Green Blue or Black drives in RAID.

[smlick]

I didn't intend to use them on a RAID array but only as a single disk in a TS-451.

[schumaku]

I didn't intend to use them on a RAID array but only as a single disk in a TS-451.

Bad idea in general.

Often overseen is the fact that the NAS does make use of a RAID for the swap, firmware, and config partitions anyway.

[smlick]

Often overseen is the fact that the NAS does make use of a RAID for the swap, firmware, and config partitions anyway.

It depends about the personal goal!
I have no high risk data on that NAS, i backupped the NAS config.....so if first disk fault I can change it and restore the config!
My goal is not to lost 4TB or 8TB for a RAID5
I have some RAID5 around my LAB but not on the TS-451
So I made a simple question.....for a simple answer, work (without some issue) as a single disk in a QNAP NAS?


Regards
Alessio