TVS-882 CPU Upgrade

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TVS-882 CPU Upgrade

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Own an i5/16GB TVS-882 and was curious if you can upgrade the CPU to an i7? I understand this will void the warranty...

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I have upgraded my 682 to an i7 just fine.
Make sure you match the same CPU family.
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I have the Core i3 version of the TVS-882 with 64GB RAM, 48TB of 3.5" Enterprise disks, 1TB SSD for my VMs, and a high end M.2 SSD for caching the HDDs. The NAS is running Plex server and Surveillance Station recording 4 cameras. I am using Virtualization Station to run two copies Windows Server 2012 - one with Exchange 2016 and another Windows 10 VM making the NAS my primary workstation. Can anyone comment as to whether or not an upgrade to a high end Core i7 CPU will make a Noticeable difference in performance? The most noticeable issue I have is that the graphics are rather slowwwwwww.
There is also lagging in program load times and pretty much everything else I do in Windows 10. This is without the 2012 Servers even running! Virtualization Station shows just Windows 10 using WAY too much CPU for just one smallish VM. The VMs are vmWare based.
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On my 682 I have seen a good bit of performance improvements upgrading the CPU to an i7.
I also mashed it the RAM. Generally I have 4 to 5 windows 2012 servers running at all times.
CPU gets pegs sometimes and memory utilization runs high, but overall a great setup that takes a betting.
Also acts a plex server with 1-2 streams running a lot of the time.
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I went ahead installed an i7-6700; and the box is definitely faster. Trouble is now the system fans are running at full speed all the time. I used the passive CPU heat sink that came with the NAS which was good enough for the i3 but no good for an i7. My i7 came with a heatsink/fan; but it has the standard mounting pins meant to poke through holes in the motherboard. The original heat sink screws down to the board.

Today, I plan on removing the old heatsink and crossing my fingers that I can get the Intel fan to mount to the system board. If not, then I either have to find a fan/heatsink that will work with the different mount or attach a fan to the top of the original heatsink and REALLY void my warranty...

What did YOU do about CPU cooling ??
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I replaced it with a active fan. The fan that came with the CPU would not fit (mounted different).
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There is a few people who replaced the whole cpu cooler. Some went for a water cooled unit. And some like me and a few others went with a quiet Noctua cooler viewtopic.php?f=12&t=120720&start=1080
Qnap TVS-882 I3-8GB. Noctua NH-L12 cpu cooler. Noctua NF-A8 PWM system fans. Corsair SF450 PSU.
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I replaced the plain heat sink with a Thermaltake CL-P032-CA06SL-A 60mm Engine 27 1U Low-Profile 70W INTEL PWM CPU Cooler
With the enterprise HDDs and all the RAM etc. the box runs HOTTTTT !
I had to manually set the fan speeds or the noise would blast me out of the room!
While, according to Intel, the system is running in the high end of the temperature safe zone; it is still WAY hotter than I would like.

Water cooling seems to possibly be the answer. I just am not looking forward to chopping up my Qnap to install one.
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jeffreyb687 wrote:I replaced the plain heat sink with a Thermaltake CL-P032-CA06SL-A 60mm Engine 27 1U Low-Profile 70W INTEL PWM CPU Cooler
With the enterprise HDDs and all the RAM etc. the box runs HOTTTTT !
I had to manually set the fan speeds or the noise would blast me out of the room!
While, according to Intel, the system is running in the high end of the temperature safe zone; it is still WAY hotter than I would like.

Water cooling seems to possibly be the answer. I just am not looking forward to chopping up my Qnap to install one.

You say it runs hot. What temps are we talking about?

This is the cooler I use with the I3 cpu. http://noctua.at/en/nh-l12
And even with 90% load I never see it goes to 60C or above. It will be around 50-56 degrees celcius in that state.
Qnap TVS-882 I3-8GB. Noctua NH-L12 cpu cooler. Noctua NF-A8 PWM system fans. Corsair SF450 PSU.
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jeffreyb687 wrote:I replaced the plain heat sink with a Thermaltake CL-P032-CA06SL-A 60mm Engine 27 1U Low-Profile 70W INTEL PWM CPU Cooler
With the enterprise HDDs and all the RAM etc. the box runs HOTTTTT !
I had to manually set the fan speeds or the noise would blast me out of the room!
While, according to Intel, the system is running in the high end of the temperature safe zone; it is still WAY hotter than I would like.

Water cooling seems to possibly be the answer. I just am not looking forward to chopping up my Qnap to install one.
How do you have the cooler laid out. I have unpgraded the CPU to atactive fan, added a second factory fan over the ram and haven't had an isseue
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Is QNAP really refusing warranty claims when you upgrade the CPU yourself? IIRC qnap has to prove user modification resulted in the warranty claim before they can legally deny it. it's part of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson% ... rranty_Act
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jasonelmore wrote:Is QNAP really refusing warranty claims when you upgrade the CPU yourself? IIRC qnap has to prove user modification resulted in the warranty claim before they can legally deny it. it's part of the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson% ... rranty_Act

Yes any CPU modification will void your warranty...Sorry

Per QNAP..... Quote: We do not recommend to change the CPU in your system. Please understand that it will void the warranty and you are doing this at your risk...
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Re: TVS-882 CPU Upgrade

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Might be worth looking in this thread... loads of talk about CPU upgrades.

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=120720&start=195
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a completely separate question then....

I wonder if we can use a Thunderbolt 3 PCIE card in the slot and have it work correctly. Asus makes a Thunderbolt 3/USB 3.1 combo card. Has anyone here tried to use something like this for adding Thunderbolt 3 to your existing QNAP nas that has PCIE expansion options? Most of QNAP's NAS top out at thunderbolt 2 and none of the mid-range to high end nas have usb 3.1, only the entry level models with weak cpu's

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboard-Acc ... rboltEX-3/
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Re: TVS-882 CPU Upgrade

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x82's support Qnaps usb3.1 card. you need 4.3.3 f/w though ...
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