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Re: TVS-472xt, 672xt, 872xt with i7-9700K i9-9900K with Noctua NH-D15 Fan, 600W PSU, RTX 3080 (PC Gaming via VM)

Post by ramx2 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:18 am

UPDATE:
It looks Qnap did not want us to use newer CPU on the latest firmware 4.5.1.1456 build 20201015 ??? When I've placed back the original CPU everything works properly!!! Whyy?? I assume people with 8th GEN like 8700T has no issues??
QNAP TVS-672XT:
CPU: Intel Core I9-9900K, Turbo boost turned back ON and cooled by passive copper heat sink.
RAM: 32GB x 2 Samsung 2666Mhz
GPU: MSI GTX 1060 6G OCV1 6GB 192-Bit GDDR5
HDD: WESTERN DIGITAL Ultrastar® DC HC520 12TB x 6 | 7200 RPM | SATA 6Gb/s | PMR|
SSD: Lexar NVME 500GB for Cashing
PSU: Enhance Flex 600W ENP-7660B

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Re: TVS-472xt, 672xt, 872xt with i7-9700K i9-9900K with Noctua NH-D15 Fan, 600W PSU, RTX 3080 (PC Gaming via VM)

Post by joobeng » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:27 pm

ramx2 wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:18 am
UPDATE:
It looks Qnap did not want us to use newer CPU on the latest firmware 4.5.1.1456 build 20201015 ??? When I've placed back the original CPU everything works properly!!! Whyy?? I assume people with 8th GEN like 8700T has no issues??
Hi ramx2,

What do u mean? In which aspects ? What worked properly after u put back original cpu ? What specs was your original cpu ?
QNAP TVS-672xt
CPU: Intel Core i9-9900. Turbo boost switched to Power saving mode, max. frequency=79% (courtesy of user: ramx2), cooled by stock heat sink.
RAM: G Skill (Intl) 16GB x 2 = 32GB
GPU add-on card: none
HDD storage: Seagate IronWolf 12TB x 4 | 7200 RPM | SATA 6Gb/s (RAID 5)
SSD storage: 860 EVO 1TB x 2 (RAID 1)
SSD cache (M.2): 970 EVO PLUS NVME 1TB x 2 (RAID 1)
PSU: Stock

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Re: TVS-472xt, 672xt, 872xt with i7-9700K i9-9900K with Noctua NH-D15 Fan, 600W PSU, RTX 3080 (PC Gaming via VM)

Post by ramx2 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:38 pm

joobeng wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:27 pm
ramx2 wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:18 am
UPDATE:
It looks Qnap did not want us to use newer CPU on the latest firmware 4.5.1.1456 build 20201015 ??? When I've placed back the original CPU everything works properly!!! Whyy?? I assume people with 8th GEN like 8700T has no issues??
Hi ramx2,

What do u mean? In which aspects ? What worked properly after u put back original cpu ? What specs was your original cpu ?
Hi Joobeng,
It was a freaking ride today!! The TVS-672xt comes with the "i3-8100T"
The new firmware 4.5.1.1456 build 20201015 caused problems when I updated, and I had issue to open the hardware tab, it's stuck on "Loading data please wait" also the dashboard resource monitor isn't showing the CPU and RAM usage, I also assume it wasn't detecting the GPU.

It's a big mess now, I'm really running out of options! Either Qnap fixes the new firmware or I'm gonna be forced to change the CPU to 8th Gen :S or if anyone here can confirm which CPU worked properly after the upgrade. I'm talking about ppl with 9th Gen CPUs such like the i9-9900x or the i7!

That's really frustrating from Qnap side! We invested too much on the upgrades!
QNAP TVS-672XT:
CPU: Intel Core I9-9900K, Turbo boost turned back ON and cooled by passive copper heat sink.
RAM: 32GB x 2 Samsung 2666Mhz
GPU: MSI GTX 1060 6G OCV1 6GB 192-Bit GDDR5
HDD: WESTERN DIGITAL Ultrastar® DC HC520 12TB x 6 | 7200 RPM | SATA 6Gb/s | PMR|
SSD: Lexar NVME 500GB for Cashing
PSU: Enhance Flex 600W ENP-7660B

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Re: TVS-472xt, 672xt, 872xt with i7-9700K i9-9900K with Noctua NH-D15 Fan, 600W PSU, RTX 3080 (PC Gaming via VM)

Post by joobeng » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:42 pm

ramx2 wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:38 pm
joobeng wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:27 pm
ramx2 wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:18 am
UPDATE:
It looks Qnap did not want us to use newer CPU on the latest firmware 4.5.1.1456 build 20201015 ??? When I've placed back the original CPU everything works properly!!! Whyy?? I assume people with 8th GEN like 8700T has no issues??
Hi ramx2,

What do u mean? In which aspects ? What worked properly after u put back original cpu ? What specs was your original cpu ?
Hi Joobeng,
It was a freaking ride today!! The TVS-672xt comes with the "i3-8100T"
The new firmware 4.5.1.1456 build 20201015 caused problems when I updated, and I had issue to open the hardware tab, it's stuck on "Loading data please wait" also the dashboard resource monitor isn't showing the CPU and RAM usage, I also assume it wasn't detecting the GPU.

It's a big mess now, I'm really running out of options! Either Qnap fixes the new firmware or I'm gonna be forced to change the CPU to 8th Gen :S or if anyone here can confirm which CPU worked properly after the upgrade. I'm talking about ppl with 9th Gen CPUs such like the i9-9900x or the i7!

That's really frustrating from Qnap side! We invested too much on the upgrades!
Hi ramx2,

I did the same firmware update to 4.5.1.1456 build 20201015. Things are ok for now, except the DASHBOARD icon on the top right of the screen is light in colour, meaning
i am unable to click on it. After i open another application, it becames dark and can click. Very strange.

I dont think they make the FW have problems with i9-9900, i think they lack good testing.
QNAP TVS-672xt
CPU: Intel Core i9-9900. Turbo boost switched to Power saving mode, max. frequency=79% (courtesy of user: ramx2), cooled by stock heat sink.
RAM: G Skill (Intl) 16GB x 2 = 32GB
GPU add-on card: none
HDD storage: Seagate IronWolf 12TB x 4 | 7200 RPM | SATA 6Gb/s (RAID 5)
SSD storage: 860 EVO 1TB x 2 (RAID 1)
SSD cache (M.2): 970 EVO PLUS NVME 1TB x 2 (RAID 1)
PSU: Stock

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Re: TVS-472xt, 672xt, 872xt with i7-9700K i9-9900K with Noctua NH-D15 Fan, 600W PSU, RTX 3080 (PC Gaming via VM)

Post by ramx2 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:35 pm

Joobeng,
Can you please run Top from ssh?
Don’t you have also higher cpu usage?
QNAP TVS-672XT:
CPU: Intel Core I9-9900K, Turbo boost turned back ON and cooled by passive copper heat sink.
RAM: 32GB x 2 Samsung 2666Mhz
GPU: MSI GTX 1060 6G OCV1 6GB 192-Bit GDDR5
HDD: WESTERN DIGITAL Ultrastar® DC HC520 12TB x 6 | 7200 RPM | SATA 6Gb/s | PMR|
SSD: Lexar NVME 500GB for Cashing
PSU: Enhance Flex 600W ENP-7660B

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Re: TVS-472xt, 672xt, 872xt with i7-9700K i9-9900K with Noctua NH-D15 Fan, 600W PSU, RTX 3080 (PC Gaming via VM)

Post by joobeng » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:00 pm

ramx2 wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:35 pm
Joobeng,
Can you please run Top from ssh?
Don’t you have also higher cpu usage?
Hi ramx2,

I think this version of firmware (4.5.1.1456 build 20201015) for the TVS-672xt is **.

1. I take my word back, when i first login into the admin page , the top right dashboard icon is light (cannot click in it), must wait for the while then it turns dark, u can then click on it.
This had NEVER happened to me before for any of my previous QNAP boxes.

2. When i try to check hardware info., a blank appears at first (this also has not happened before), after clicking on REFRESH, the info appears but
FREE MEMORY available is 0 (ZERO), strange ... because each VM is allocated 12GB of ram, making a total of 24GB. I have 32GB, meaning 8GB of memory should be available !!!

3. After i SSH into QNAP, typed in username and password, i saw i new strange screen i never saw before (see below), is that because i SSH into QNAP using the VM within QNAP?

When i typed "TOP" i saw the same screen again.

Previously, i SSH in when i am in office LAN.
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QNAP TVS-672xt
CPU: Intel Core i9-9900. Turbo boost switched to Power saving mode, max. frequency=79% (courtesy of user: ramx2), cooled by stock heat sink.
RAM: G Skill (Intl) 16GB x 2 = 32GB
GPU add-on card: none
HDD storage: Seagate IronWolf 12TB x 4 | 7200 RPM | SATA 6Gb/s (RAID 5)
SSD storage: 860 EVO 1TB x 2 (RAID 1)
SSD cache (M.2): 970 EVO PLUS NVME 1TB x 2 (RAID 1)
PSU: Stock

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Re: TVS-472xt, 672xt, 872xt with i7-9700K i9-9900K with Noctua NH-D15 Fan, 600W PSU, RTX 3080 (PC Gaming via VM)

Post by ramx2 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:04 pm

That happened to me too, in ssh click Q then Y, tbh I like what they’ve did.. We can do much more stuff from console lol
QNAP TVS-672XT:
CPU: Intel Core I9-9900K, Turbo boost turned back ON and cooled by passive copper heat sink.
RAM: 32GB x 2 Samsung 2666Mhz
GPU: MSI GTX 1060 6G OCV1 6GB 192-Bit GDDR5
HDD: WESTERN DIGITAL Ultrastar® DC HC520 12TB x 6 | 7200 RPM | SATA 6Gb/s | PMR|
SSD: Lexar NVME 500GB for Cashing
PSU: Enhance Flex 600W ENP-7660B

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Re: TVS-472xt, 672xt, 872xt with i7-9700K i9-9900K with Noctua NH-D15 Fan, 600W PSU, RTX 3080 (PC Gaming via VM)

Post by rafale » Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:46 am

ramx2 wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:04 pm
That happened to me too, in ssh click Q then Y, tbh I like what they’ve did.. We can do much more stuff from console lol
Really? Like what? I would think that the console is much more restrictive that the bare OS CLI prompt.
Current Config:
TVS-872XT, i9 9900T ES, intel X550-T2, Zotac RTX 2070 mini (with pico PSU as secondary), 64GB DDR4 2666MHz, 2x generic Phison E12 1TB M.2 SSD. 4x WD Red 8TB, 4x WD Purple 4TB
TS-473, 20GB DDR4, Mellanox ConnectX3... WIP
Resold:
TVS-1282, i7 6700K, intel X550-T2, Mellanox ConnectX3
TS-871, TS-469

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Re: TVS-472xt, 672xt, 872xt with i7-9700K i9-9900K with Noctua NH-D15 Fan, 600W PSU, RTX 3080 (PC Gaming via VM)

Post by ramx2 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:04 am

Rafale,
Well I liked that they showed these options to control the device the first you ssh. It’s just easier for anyone now to control their nas even if they do not know much about the console...

Are you willing to take the plunge and test the new firmware on ES?
QNAP TVS-672XT:
CPU: Intel Core I9-9900K, Turbo boost turned back ON and cooled by passive copper heat sink.
RAM: 32GB x 2 Samsung 2666Mhz
GPU: MSI GTX 1060 6G OCV1 6GB 192-Bit GDDR5
HDD: WESTERN DIGITAL Ultrastar® DC HC520 12TB x 6 | 7200 RPM | SATA 6Gb/s | PMR|
SSD: Lexar NVME 500GB for Cashing
PSU: Enhance Flex 600W ENP-7660B

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Re: TVS-472xt, 672xt, 872xt with i7-9700K i9-9900K with Noctua NH-D15 Fan, 600W PSU, RTX 3080 (PC Gaming via VM)

Post by rafale » Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:15 am

Not quite yet, especially after reading your reports. ;)
I am actually still 2 versions back because my unit is mission critical, I don't upgrade or reboot it if I don't have to. I won't be goofing with it until I get my new CPU and my backup NAS (TS-473). At which point I will be doing some surgery, adding heatsinks to my nvme drives which I am finding a bit to toasty for my taste even at idle and I will likely be installing some 8gb SSDs to replace my WD Reds.
Current Config:
TVS-872XT, i9 9900T ES, intel X550-T2, Zotac RTX 2070 mini (with pico PSU as secondary), 64GB DDR4 2666MHz, 2x generic Phison E12 1TB M.2 SSD. 4x WD Red 8TB, 4x WD Purple 4TB
TS-473, 20GB DDR4, Mellanox ConnectX3... WIP
Resold:
TVS-1282, i7 6700K, intel X550-T2, Mellanox ConnectX3
TS-871, TS-469

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Re: TVS-472xt, 672xt, 872xt with i7-9700K i9-9900K with Noctua NH-D15 Fan, 600W PSU, RTX 3080 (PC Gaming via VM)

Post by ramx2 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 3:33 am

@rafale
Downgrading the firmware back is feasible :) but I understand for sure. I wouldn't take the plunge if I didn't have my data backed up, and don't mind to play around.
Hopefully anyone report how the installation went on their new CPU and if they've found issues. That's my plan also to replace the drives with SSD, it will be a big increase on iops.. Just need the ssds get cheaper and bigger.
QNAP TVS-672XT:
CPU: Intel Core I9-9900K, Turbo boost turned back ON and cooled by passive copper heat sink.
RAM: 32GB x 2 Samsung 2666Mhz
GPU: MSI GTX 1060 6G OCV1 6GB 192-Bit GDDR5
HDD: WESTERN DIGITAL Ultrastar® DC HC520 12TB x 6 | 7200 RPM | SATA 6Gb/s | PMR|
SSD: Lexar NVME 500GB for Cashing
PSU: Enhance Flex 600W ENP-7660B

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Re: TVS-472xt, 672xt, 872xt with i7-9700K i9-9900K with Noctua NH-D15 Fan, 600W PSU, RTX 3080 (PC Gaming via VM)

Post by rafale » Mon Oct 19, 2020 4:15 am

I got myself 4 of these for a RAID5 array: https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/9196/ ... index.html
It wasn't cheap but a bit cheaper but very suitable for my NAS use. (little write and a lot of read per day)
Current Config:
TVS-872XT, i9 9900T ES, intel X550-T2, Zotac RTX 2070 mini (with pico PSU as secondary), 64GB DDR4 2666MHz, 2x generic Phison E12 1TB M.2 SSD. 4x WD Red 8TB, 4x WD Purple 4TB
TS-473, 20GB DDR4, Mellanox ConnectX3... WIP
Resold:
TVS-1282, i7 6700K, intel X550-T2, Mellanox ConnectX3
TS-871, TS-469

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Re: TVS-472xt, 672xt, 872xt with i7-9700K i9-9900K with Noctua NH-D15 Fan, 600W PSU, RTX 3080 (PC Gaming via VM)

Post by joobeng » Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:05 pm

ramx2 wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:04 am
Rafale,
Well I liked that they showed these options to control the device the first you ssh. It’s just easier for anyone now to control their nas even if they do not know much about the console...

Are you willing to take the plunge and test the new firmware on ES?
Hi ramx2 and all,

QTS 4.5.1.1456 build 20201015, is a really bad version for my TVS-672xt with i9-9900.

One user complained that when he tried to copy a 6 files into a certain QNAP folder that is mapped as a "P" drive in this Win10 PC, none of the files showed.

But when he close and open the P drive (folder) again, the files are shown, but they are all 0 KB in size. Not sure if they are indeed 0 KB in size or just some visible error.

Downgrading back to 4.4.3.1439 build 20200925, have no choice but to accept all the warnings about the downgrading of firmware by posted by QNAP, before that, had to disable
the SSD cache as it mentioned might affect downgrading of FW.

C r a p ...
QNAP TVS-672xt
CPU: Intel Core i9-9900. Turbo boost switched to Power saving mode, max. frequency=79% (courtesy of user: ramx2), cooled by stock heat sink.
RAM: G Skill (Intl) 16GB x 2 = 32GB
GPU add-on card: none
HDD storage: Seagate IronWolf 12TB x 4 | 7200 RPM | SATA 6Gb/s (RAID 5)
SSD storage: 860 EVO 1TB x 2 (RAID 1)
SSD cache (M.2): 970 EVO PLUS NVME 1TB x 2 (RAID 1)
PSU: Stock

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Re: TVS-472xt, 672xt, 872xt with i7-9700K i9-9900K with Noctua NH-D15 Fan, 600W PSU, RTX 3080 (PC Gaming via VM)

Post by joobeng » Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:09 pm

Hi All,

For those who have upgraded your TVS-672xt CPU to i9-9900 etc, be very careful about upgrading to this new firmware (FW) version.

QTS 4.5.1.1456 build 20201015, is a really bad version for my TVS-672xt with i9-9900. See earlier post.

https://www.qnap.com/qts/4.5.1/en-au
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QNAP TVS-672xt
CPU: Intel Core i9-9900. Turbo boost switched to Power saving mode, max. frequency=79% (courtesy of user: ramx2), cooled by stock heat sink.
RAM: G Skill (Intl) 16GB x 2 = 32GB
GPU add-on card: none
HDD storage: Seagate IronWolf 12TB x 4 | 7200 RPM | SATA 6Gb/s (RAID 5)
SSD storage: 860 EVO 1TB x 2 (RAID 1)
SSD cache (M.2): 970 EVO PLUS NVME 1TB x 2 (RAID 1)
PSU: Stock

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Re: TVS-472xt, 672xt, 872xt with i7-9700K i9-9900K with Noctua NH-D15 Fan, 600W PSU, RTX 3080 (PC Gaming via VM)

Post by OneCD » Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:16 pm

joobeng wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:09 pm
QTS 4.5.1.1456 build 20201015, is a really bad version for my TVS-672xt with i9-9900. See earlier post.
Hi @joobeng, I've edited your last post to remove the URL, as it contained your personal account information and meant anyone could alter your subscriptions. ;)

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