TS-253D Memory Upgrade

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Re: TS-253D Memory Upgrade

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psidrj wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:46 pm Hy,
So, there is still a very lively discussion about the limit of memory that we can use, but although I am one of those eager to see the result of this discussion, there is something else I need to ask.

Whereas the system uses SODIMM 2400 MT/s, I need to know if it would work with a similar 2666 MT/s memory.

If I remember correctly, I believe it would work at 2400MT/s, that is, without taking advantage of all the speed of memory, and I ask you to be kind enough to confirm or correct me.
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You can use 2666

This is the one I used:
https://www.komplett.no/product/1141338 ... 66mhz-32gb
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Re: TS-253D Memory Upgrade

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Those that like to only upgrade to 8 GB can use this
https://www.multicom.no/adata-premier-s ... c/p9850148

This is exactly same as the original delivered with the 253D.
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R1200CL wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:24 am
Moogle Stiltzkin wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:29 am run the command to confirm how much ram you will be actually using. and report back here the result
I don’t understand. What command ?
R1200CL wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 11:01 pm I have 32GB in mine now. I would like to know why it actually works. I don’t think the processor can use more than 8.
Runnig the command

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dmidecode -t 16
will show how much physical memory the CPU is capable of addressing.[/color]

The reason it works is because - in the case of your TS-253D - is because the Memory Controller and DDR Memory Interface are design to address that amount of space. That does not necessarily mean that the system the SoC is integrated in has the necessary circuitry to address the maximum amount of physical memory the CPU is capable of addressing.
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I don’t know how where and how to run a command in a qnap. I know cmd in windows 😀.
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R1200CL wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:01 am I don’t know how where and how to run a command in a qnap. I know cmd in windows 😀.
in qts, enable ssh

then use winscp > putty to then login to ssh into qnap and type in command. ez :)
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Re: TS-253D Memory Upgrade

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Moogle Stiltzkin wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:45 am then use winscp > putty to then login to ssh into qnap and type in command. ez :)
These days, Windows 10 also has native support for SSH. :geek:

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Re: TS-253D Memory Upgrade

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Hi,

Anyone know if the installed DDR4 RAM is having CAS/CL 17 or 16?

I got my TS-253D with 4Gb and want to upgrade with a 2nd 4Gb RAM module and from what I understand then it is best having the same memory speed and CAS/CL.

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Re: TS-253D Memory Upgrade

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Hi All,

I'm hoping someone could help me out here. I have a ts-253d and am trying to properly test the memory. I have the oem ADATA 4gb stick and a 16gb crucial stick (CT16G4SFD824A). I am only able to run memtest86 because of the UEFI BIOS. I have tried multiple combinations of the ram sticks and am I getting the following results:
Slot #1: ADATA; Slot #2: Empty -> Pass
Slot #1: Empty: Slot #2: Crucial -> Pass
Slot #1: ADATA; Slot #2: Crucial -> Errors
Slot #1: Crucial; Slot #2: Empty -> Errors

Any idea what's going on? Why they're passing separately in certain slots, but failing together? I am not yet running on the latest BIOS, would that make a difference? I plan on trying that next. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
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Re: TS-253D Memory Upgrade

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I just slapped a 16GiB RAM DIMM into the TS-253D that I bought a couple of weeks ago. While I had it open, I also slapped in the 8GiB DIMM I had lying around. I now have 24GiB in the NAS :)

The 8GiB DIMM is a Lenovo branded one from a laptop, the other one is a Crucial DIMM I order before the weekend. It's the same type as mentioned in one of the earlier posts.

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# free -g
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:            23          9         14          0          0          2
-/+ buffers/cache:          6         16
Swap:           23          0         23

# dmidecode 
[...]
Handle 0x0027, DMI type 17, 84 bytes
Memory Device
	Array Handle: 0x0023
	Error Information Handle: Not Provided
	Total Width: 64 bits
	Data Width: 64 bits
	Size: 8192 MB
	Form Factor: SODIMM
	Set: None
	Locator: A1_DIMM1
	Bank Locator: A1_BANK1
	Type: DDR4
	Type Detail: Synchronous
	Speed: 2400 MT/s
	Manufacturer: Samsung
	Serial Number: 57085294
	Asset Tag: 9876543210
	Part Number: M471A1K43CB1-CRC  
	Rank: Unknown
	Configured Clock Speed: 2400 MT/s
	Minimum Voltage: 1.2 V
	Maximum Voltage: 1.2 V
	Configured Voltage: 1.2 V
	Memory Technology: Unknown
	Memory Operating Mode Capability: Unknown
	Firmware Version: 1A1K43CB1-CRC  
	Module Manufacturer ID: Unknown
	Module Product ID: Unknown
	Memory Subsystem Controller Manufacturer ID: Unknown
	Memory Subsystem Controller Product ID: Unknown
	Non-Volatile Size: None
	Handle 0x0027, DMI type 17, 84 bytes
Memory Device
	Array Handle: 0x0023
	Error Information Handle: Not Provided
	Total Width: 64 bits
	Data Width: 64 bits
	Size: 8192 MB
	Form Factor: SODIMM
	Set: None
	Locator: A1_DIMM1
	Bank Locator: A1_BANK1
	Type: DDR4
	Type Detail: Synchronous
	Speed: 2400 MT/s
	Manufacturer: Samsung
	Serial Number: 57085294
	Asset Tag: 9876543210
	Part Number: M471A1K43CB1-CRC  
	Rank: Unknown
	Configured Clock Speed: 2400 MT/s
	Minimum Voltage: 1.2 V
	Maximum Voltage: 1.2 V
	Configured Voltage: 1.2 V
	Memory Technology: Unknown
	Memory Operating Mode Capability: Unknown
	Firmware Version: 1A1K43CB1-CRC  
	Module Manufacturer ID: Unknown
	Module Product ID: Unknown
	Memory Subsystem Controller Manufacturer ID: Unknown
	Memory Subsystem Controller Product ID: Unknown
	Non-Volatile Size: None
	Volatile Size: None
	Cache Size: None
	Logical Size: None
Volatile Size: None
	Cache Size: None
	Logical Size: None
[...]
Handle 0x0025, DMI type 17, 84 bytes
Memory Device
	Array Handle: 0x0023
	Error Information Handle: Not Provided
	Total Width: 64 bits
	Data Width: 64 bits
	Size: 16384 MB
	Form Factor: SODIMM
	Set: None
	Locator: A1_DIMM0
	Bank Locator: A1_BANK0
	Type: DDR4
	Type Detail: Synchronous
	Speed: 2400 MT/s
	Manufacturer: Crucial
	Serial Number: 22201091
	Asset Tag: 9876543210
	Part Number: CT16G4SFD8266.C16F
	Rank: Unknown
	Configured Clock Speed: 2400 MT/s
	Minimum Voltage: 1.2 V
	Maximum Voltage: 1.2 V
	Configured Voltage: 1.2 V
	Memory Technology: Unknown
	Memory Operating Mode Capability: Unknown
	Firmware Version: 6G4SFD8266.C16F
	Module Manufacturer ID: Unknown
	Module Product ID: Unknown
	Memory Subsystem Controller Manufacturer ID: Unknown
	Memory Subsystem Controller Product ID: Unknown
	Non-Volatile Size: None
	Volatile Size: None
	Cache Size: None
	Logical Size: None
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Re: TS-253D Memory Upgrade

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I have installed two Kingston 16GB KCP424SD8/16 DDR4 2400Mhz sticks into my TS-253D. They have been running without issue for a couple of weeks.
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Re: TS-253D Memory Upgrade

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@Qnazzle, that is a 2Rx8 RAM of 16GB each. That is indeed a good configuration to use.

If you are interested in the details on how to choose the correct RAM for TS-x53D models, refer to my post on the other thread.
viewtopic.php?f=182&t=165535&p=813492#p813492
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Re: TS-253D Memory Upgrade

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Single CT8G4SFS824A stick working on a TS-253D, 12GB total (new stick + original 4GB). Qnap apps and a VM working ok for a couple of days. Waiting for the second stick to arrive.
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Re: TS-253D Memory Upgrade

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Hi,
I just upgraded using 2 Kingston KVR26S19D8/16.

No worries :-)
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Re: TS-253D Memory Upgrade

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Can confrm that 2 sticks of Kingston KF426S15IB1/16 work as well :wink:
Original ram replaced in less than 5 minutes by accessing the slots from front opening after removing the hard drives.

Thanks all for your help
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