Qnap 1079 and 4TB HD
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Qnap 1079 and 4TB HD
HI.
I want to buy a Qnap 1079 with 10 disks 4TB each
I want to know which is the most stable and with no problem disk.
I prefer a non enterprise disk for budget reason.
Any idea which is the king of no problem ?
Thanks
I want to buy a Qnap 1079 with 10 disks 4TB each
I want to know which is the most stable and with no problem disk.
I prefer a non enterprise disk for budget reason.
Any idea which is the king of no problem ?
Thanks
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Re: Qnap 1079 and 4TB HD
So you are going to spend a lot of money on a 1079 but then want to cheap out on the disks which is probably the worst place to cheap out.
For a 10 bay nas I would only trust enterprise drives with that much data but check the drive compatability list and then decide which ones to use. Google the different recommended models to see how many issues there are.
For a 10 bay nas I would only trust enterprise drives with that much data but check the drive compatability list and then decide which ones to use. Google the different recommended models to see how many issues there are.
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Use RAID and external backups. RAID will protect you from disk failure, keep your system running, and data accessible while the disk is replaced, and the RAID rebuilt. Backups will allow you to recover data that is lost or corrupted, or from system failure. One does not replace the other.
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Use RAID and external backups. RAID will protect you from disk failure, keep your system running, and data accessible while the disk is replaced, and the RAID rebuilt. Backups will allow you to recover data that is lost or corrupted, or from system failure. One does not replace the other.
NAS: TVS-882BR | F/W: 5.0.1.2346 | 40GB | 2 x 1TB M.2 SATA RAID 1 (System/VMs) | 3 x 1TB M.2 NMVe QM2-4P-384A RAID 5 (cache) | 5 x 14TB Exos HDD RAID 6 (Data) | 1 x Blu-ray
NAS: TVS-h674 | F/W: 5.0.1.2376 | 16GB | 3 x 18TB RAID 5
Apps: DNSMasq, PLEX, iDrive, QVPN, QLMS, MP3fs, HBS3, Entware, DLstation, VS, +
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Re: Qnap 1079 and 4TB HD
one thing is for sure... DO NOT GET SEAGATE DRIVES FOR IT.
QNAP T-653D QTS 5.1.6 build 20240402
QNAP TVS-951x QTS 5.1.6 build 20240402
QNAP TS-453A QTS 5.1.6 build 20240402
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Re: Qnap 1079 and 4TB HD
Any 4 TB enterprise disk on the Qnap disk compatibility list.
I wouldn't recommend desktop disks but if you're absolutely determined, in my opinion the Hitachis on the above mentioned disk compatibility list is the only sane choice considering the manufacturer recommendations and the customer experiences reported in the forum. Although customer experiences with 4 TB disks is still limited altogether.
If you intend to use all disks in a single volume, I'd go with RAID 6 or RAID 10 and possibly online but definately offline spares as well.
I wouldn't recommend desktop disks but if you're absolutely determined, in my opinion the Hitachis on the above mentioned disk compatibility list is the only sane choice considering the manufacturer recommendations and the customer experiences reported in the forum. Although customer experiences with 4 TB disks is still limited altogether.
If you intend to use all disks in a single volume, I'd go with RAID 6 or RAID 10 and possibly online but definately offline spares as well.
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
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Re: Qnap 1079 and 4TB HD
any info about ST4000VM000 ?
i want to put in single raid6 volume and take the 11° disk for offline spare
i need two nases in two different site with the same data on each so i need 22 disks and the difference between enterprise and standard disks are 150e each and 3.300 total. it's a lot of money
i want to put in single raid6 volume and take the 11° disk for offline spare
i need two nases in two different site with the same data on each so i need 22 disks and the difference between enterprise and standard disks are 150e each and 3.300 total. it's a lot of money
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Re: Qnap 1079 and 4TB HD
None other that it is yet another disk not intended for NAS/RAID applications. I have read explanations of why PVR-disks are not really recommended for NAS/RAID usage on the net but I'm not sure if they are valid so google and make up your own mind.paolomarino wrote:any info about ST4000VM000 ?
Even when using using RAID 6, please be aware that the risks are not insignificant with such numbers of disks and huge data volumes.i want to put in single raid6 volume and take the 11° disk for offline spare
Yes, huge storage volumes are costly. The data on them are however usually worth much more....the difference between enterprise and standard disks are 150e each and 3.300 total. it's a lot of money
When shopping for 4 TB disks in a TS-1079 in any professional environment and on a tight budget, I would today definately go with WD Se WD4000F9YZ.
If the same NAS was intended for personal use, I would also consider:
- HDS724040ALE640 (aka H3IK40003272SW and H3IK40003272SW)
- ST4000VN000 (yes I know it is not recommended for larger than 5 bay installations but at least it is recommended for 24*7 NAS/RAID applications)
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
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Re: Qnap 1079 and 4TB HD
Thanks for the suggestions. I will care them.
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Re: Qnap 1079 and 4TB HD
HGST Ultrastar 7K4000 3TB, 4KB Sektoren, SATA 6Gb/s (HUS724030ALE640/0F14684) -> 5 years warranty
I've using this disks in RAID 10 and with no problems at all 24/7. You don't want to get cheap disks. I don't also recommend RAID 6 with drives > 1TB
I had the most problems with WD Red.. just use Enterprise, you won't regret it.
You can buy just 6 discs to get over 16TB and expand it later
I've using this disks in RAID 10 and with no problems at all 24/7. You don't want to get cheap disks. I don't also recommend RAID 6 with drives > 1TB
I had the most problems with WD Red.. just use Enterprise, you won't regret it.
You can buy just 6 discs to get over 16TB and expand it later
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Re: Qnap 1079 and 4TB HD
Why?Metzlmane wrote:I don't also recommend RAID 6 with drives > 1TB
Are you not aware that RAID 6 offer better redundancy (so better security from disk failures) than RAID 10?
Only possible if using the SMB firmware (still only in beta testing so not recommended for production environments) and formatting the volume for the new storage pool feature.You can buy just 6 discs to get over 16TB and expand it later
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
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Re: Qnap 1079 and 4TB HD
For 10 disks, 2x5-0drive raid5 or raid6 should be ideal. While you get 2 to 4 disks lower capacity, you'll have better reliability and better performance in case of failures
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Re: Qnap 1079 and 4TB HD
Hello
Getting back to disk compatability
i own Qnap 1079 pro and i sold all HDD's and upgrading to new once
the question is
For the compatability list shows up to 12TB per HDD
and item description shows
supports up to 10 hdd's 3TB per HDD each
so does it support 6-10-12TB or only 3TB max per HDD
Getting back to disk compatability
i own Qnap 1079 pro and i sold all HDD's and upgrading to new once
the question is
For the compatability list shows up to 12TB per HDD
and item description shows
supports up to 10 hdd's 3TB per HDD each
so does it support 6-10-12TB or only 3TB max per HDD
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Re: Qnap 1079 and 4TB HD
please don't dig up 8 year old topics...open a new one
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