Connecting PoE switch & cameras direct to a TS-531P

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Connecting PoE switch & cameras direct to a TS-531P

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I have a TS-531P connected to a Netgear GS116E.

I have two Hikvision DS-2CD2145F-IS 4MP cameras connected using an unmanaged PoE switch. These cameras are not yet supported by Surveillance Station, but if this switch is connected to the Netgear then the cameras pop up in SADPTool and I cam administer them via a web browser without problems.

I want to know if it is possible to connect this PoE switch directly to the rear of the NAS and have the cameras accessible as part of my 192.168.0.* network. Currently when I connect it, the adapter reports the IP address as 169.254.100.100.

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Re: Connecting PoE switch & cameras direct to a TS-531P

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make sure that you router (if it is handling) dhcp is also part of that loop
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These cameras are not yet supported by Surveillance Station,
If you connect them as ONVIF ProfileS you could get continuous recording, and motion detection recording, but no intrusion detection or line crossing detection recording, with an h.264 profile.
Currently when I connect it, the adapter reports the IP address as 169.254.100.100.
That's a 'self-administered IP address' which is chosen when an interface is set to DHCP but there is no DHCP response.
For a NAS, you should really set a static address so that it is predictable.
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The NAS has it's IP as .135 which is static, and DHCP is enabled on the internet router so that IPs are handed out as needed. If I connect the PoE switch to the main Netgear switch, the cameras will be handed IPs .30 and .31 and they can be seen in SADPTool / a web browser.

If I connect the PoE switch to Ethernet3 on the NAS (as per the image above), the port is assigned 169.254.100.100 and the cameras are invisible/inaccessible. I tried manually setting that port as 192.168.0.100 in Control Panel>Network but to no avail (the cameras were previously given .101 and .102 while connected to the main switch).
That's a 'self-administered IP address' which is chosen when an interface is set to DHCP but there is no DHCP response.
Presumably that's because there is no DHCP device connected to Ethernet3, whereas Ethernet1 has access to the router. Would bridging them make them effectively the same network? How would I do that?
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bl0ke wrote:The NAS has it's IP as .135 which is static, and DHCP is enabled on the internet router so that IPs are handed out as needed. If I connect the PoE switch to the main Netgear switch, the cameras will be handed IPs .30 and .31 and they can be seen in SADPTool / a web browser.

If I connect the PoE switch to Ethernet3 on the NAS (as per the image above), the port is assigned 169.254.100.100 and the cameras are invisible/inaccessible. I tried manually setting that port as 192.168.0.100 in Control Panel>Network but to no avail (the cameras were previously given .101 and .102 while connected to the main switch).
That's a 'self-administered IP address' which is chosen when an interface is set to DHCP but there is no DHCP response.
Presumably that's because there is no DHCP device connected to Ethernet3, whereas Ethernet1 has access to the router. Would bridging them make them effectively the same network? How would I do that?
Can you not enable DHCP on the NAS and set up for ethernet 3 and create it's own subnet?
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Plug everything into the switch including the router.
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Don wrote:Plug everything into the switch including the router.
Yeah that's the fallback, but i only have two lines going to the loft where the NAS will reside, and I would like to use both for trunking rather than dedicate one for the cameras.
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I still don't understand why you can't assign Ethernet 3 a static IP address in the segment of your choice, and set matching static IP addresses on the cameras with SADP.
DHCP just should not figure in this setup.
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