Synology and ESXi replacement

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Synology and ESXi replacement

Post by yellowapple » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:09 am

Hello,

I'm currently using two ESXi hosts on Shuttle/Zotac servers with multiple VMs: 2K12, Horizon, firewalls, windows clients, Mac OSx, etc..
The storage is a synology four bay (4*6 Tb) with ISCSi and the main workstation is a i7 tower PC. All these devices are in a 19 inches rack in the basement.

Video sources are TV streamer, satellite and media player, all of them are reachable through HDMI over IP including IR with remote control to select one of the sources.
The clients are: 55 inches TV, beamer, 32 inches display with KVM over IP for the PC and two small POE thin clients behind 24 inches displays for the kids accessing the workstations through RDP, View or VNC.

I want to replace the four main servers by two QNAP with virtualization station that will replace both ESXi servers/Syno. I'm currently looking at the TVS-473 with 32 or 64Gb ram. Is it a good choice?

I also want to use HD station to replace the thin client to provide Kodi, Plex, Chrome and other application to the kids. Problem, I've seen that Linux station can provide an HDMI workstation. Is it possible for a Windows 10? If not is it possible to have an application on the HD station to access the virtual windows 10? VNC?
Secondly, possible to have two users on the two hdmi HD station at the same time?

Thank you in advance.
yA
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Asus GTX 1050 TI 4 GB / Zotac Geforce 710 1GB
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Re: Synology and ESXi replacement

Post by Trexx » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:34 am

What is the configuration of your Shuttle/Zotac servers? CPU, Memory, etc.??

You might be better off going with a single QNAP TS-x77 NAS with sufficient storage +_Nvidia GPU (for HD Station/Kodi/Plex/etc.) vs. (2) TS-473's. The TS-x73's have a passmark around ~4800, where even the base TS-x77 Ryzen 1600's models have a passmark over 12,000 so you have much more CPU capability/performance. You will have (4) 1GbE connections to start with and can add PCIe add-on cards to add additional 10GbE capacity as well. It also can scale to the same 64GBs as the x73.

As for having a VS VM visible through HD Station, yes that can be done via QXL in VS. It can be done for Win7 & Win10, you just have to have the latest Guest Tools (virtIO & QXL) drivers installed.
Paul

Model: TS-877-1600 FW: 4.4.1.x
QTier (HDD): [RAID-5] 6 x 3TB HGST DeskStar NAS QTier (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x 1TB WD Blue m.2's
(SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x 500GB Evo 860
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury 64GB DDR4-2666
GPU: EVGA GTX 1060, ACX 2.0(1 Fan), 6GB
UPS: CyberPower AVR1350 Ext. Backup: USB 3.0 Seagate 5TB
Media Boxes: Nvidia ShieldTV Pro, AppleTV 4k, Various Roku's

Model: TVS-673 32GB FW: 4.4.1.x Test/Backup Box
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Re: Synology and ESXi replacement

Post by yellowapple » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:53 am

Hello Paul,

The shuttle is the SZ270R8 with 64Gb ram, Zotac ID90, 16GB ram. The small one is there mainly for redundancy.
I'll have a look at the TS-x77 series, thank you. In the meantime, I've ordered a small TBS-453A to play with it.

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QNAP 877, 64GB RAM, 26TB (M2 + SSD + SATA), 10GB RJ45
Asus GTX 1050 TI 4 GB / Zotac Geforce 710 1GB
QNAP TBS-453a, 16 BG RAM, 1TB M2

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Re: Synology and ESXi replacement

Post by yellowapple » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:26 pm

Another question, is it possible to use both HDMI at the same time for two different clients ?
The goal is to keep the Qnap in the basement and provide multimedia and workstation connectivity through at least two POE KVM over IP.

If not possible, I can still use vQTS on the x77 series to create at least two Hybridesk that will run in parallel.
QNAP 877, 64GB RAM, 26TB (M2 + SSD + SATA), 10GB RJ45
Asus GTX 1050 TI 4 GB / Zotac Geforce 710 1GB
QNAP TBS-453a, 16 BG RAM, 1TB M2

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Re: Synology and ESXi replacement

Post by yellowapple » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:04 pm

Hello Paul,

GPU association is only possible with [virtualization station] and [HD Station-Linux station] but not at the same time.

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Two GPU cards can be added to solve the problem but PCI slots are limited. I've seen that you have added a GeForce GTX 1060 to your 877. Is this card using the PCI 8x?
What slots are remaining?

Thx
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QNAP 877, 64GB RAM, 26TB (M2 + SSD + SATA), 10GB RJ45
Asus GTX 1050 TI 4 GB / Zotac Geforce 710 1GB
QNAP TBS-453a, 16 BG RAM, 1TB M2

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Re: Synology and ESXi replacement

Post by Trexx » Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:34 am

Sorry didn’t get back to you earlier... working on getting house ready to sell.


GPU card goes in the single card slot on the right as you face from rear.

Don’t think you can feasibly run 2 cards as left slots aren’t big enough.

As for Gpu it’s either HD Station or VMs, but can’t be both. You still can used qxl video drivers in VMs but won’t get same graphics level but for basic desktop usage would be good enough.


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Model: TS-877-1600 FW: 4.4.1.x
QTier (HDD): [RAID-5] 6 x 3TB HGST DeskStar NAS QTier (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x 1TB WD Blue m.2's
(SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x 500GB Evo 860
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury 64GB DDR4-2666
GPU: EVGA GTX 1060, ACX 2.0(1 Fan), 6GB
UPS: CyberPower AVR1350 Ext. Backup: USB 3.0 Seagate 5TB
Media Boxes: Nvidia ShieldTV Pro, AppleTV 4k, Various Roku's

Model: TVS-673 32GB FW: 4.4.1.x Test/Backup Box
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NAS RAID Rebuild Times | Live QTS Videos | | QNAP NAS Guide | Information needed when you ask for HELP | QNAP Links, Tutorials, etc.
2018 Plex NAS Compatibility Guide | QNAP Plex FAQ | Moogle's QNAP Faq

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