Hi everyone,
I recently got a TS-453 mini, and the drive in bay 1 always seems to overheat. Any advice on keeping it cool would be helpful, but I've had two different drives in there, and both showed the same behaviour.
I have put in:
Bay 1: 4TB HGST (7200RPM Deskstar)
Bay 2: 4TB HGST (Raid 0 with bay 1)
Bay 3: 2 TB random drive
Bay 4: Nothing
And consistently the temperature in a 20-25 degree C room will be:
CPU: 35
System: 39
HDD 1: 51
HDD 2: 43
HDD 3: 34
System fan (manually set at medium): 756 RPM. I can boost the fan to 1200RPM, which is noisy but helps, but even so the difference in temp is worrying me.
The first drive I had in Bay 1 started showing SMART errors so I bought another one and replaced it. The new drive (once the RAID rebuilt) is showing the same heat results.
It seems like being in bay 1 (next to the computer internals I think?) is a problem, is there any way I can shuffle them all along one bay? Or swap the HDD in bay 1 to bay 4? Without killing my data...
Cheers,
-Alastair
Overheating Bay 1, can I move it?
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dolbyman
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Re: Overheating Bay 1, can I move it?
how did a raid0 rebuild ?
I guess raid1 (typo)?
anyways..try a lower spindle speed drive..e.g. wd red
I guess raid1 (typo)?
anyways..try a lower spindle speed drive..e.g. wd red
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alastc
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Re: Overheating Bay 1, can I move it?
Sorry, yes, a RAID 1 for the first two drives.
Arg, so buy a different type of drive? Any ideas why it would be so different for bay 1?
Arg, so buy a different type of drive? Any ideas why it would be so different for bay 1?
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Re: Overheating Bay 1, can I move it?
in my nas the outside drives run 1 or 2 C higher than the middle drives(wd red) ..but my NAS is so low powered that no real additional heat should be introduced from the soc board side...
it should be designed to take care of the drives heat..no idea why yours is getting so hot..but a lower spinning drive should create less heat
it should be designed to take care of the drives heat..no idea why yours is getting so hot..but a lower spinning drive should create less heat
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Re: Overheating Bay 1, can I move it?
No.alastc wrote:Or swap the HDD in bay 1 to bay 4? Without killing my data...
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Re: Overheating Bay 1, can I move it?
OK, so current plan is to copy disk 3 externally, put two WD reds in bays 3 & 4, setup RAID 1 on those, and copy data from disks 1 & 2 across.
Then remove disks 1 & 2, and put back a disk into bay 2 and copy back the external data.
Does that sound reasonable?
Then remove disks 1 & 2, and put back a disk into bay 2 and copy back the external data.
Does that sound reasonable?
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Re: Overheating Bay 1, can I move it?
Contrary to some opinions, the bay positions are not important (some models have specific SSD/system bays), you should be able to move disk 1 and 2 to 3 and 4 but do so when powered off.alastc wrote:OK, so current plan is to copy disk 3 externally, put two WD reds in bays 3 & 4, setup RAID 1 on those, and copy data from disks 1 & 2 across.
Then remove disks 1 & 2, and put back a disk into bay 2 and copy back the external data.
Does that sound reasonable?
If you want to change to RAID 1 (obviously safer) then your plan looks fine.
But backup first.
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Re: Overheating Bay 1, can I move it?
Thanks @storageman, it was a typo in my original post, it is a mirrored raid for the first 2 bays.
Given that it is RAID 1, is it possible to move the HDD from bay 1 to 4? Is there anything I need to do in the interface, or does it just work?
Given that it is RAID 1, is it possible to move the HDD from bay 1 to 4? Is there anything I need to do in the interface, or does it just work?
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Re: Overheating Bay 1, can I move it?
Should just work but please back first.
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Re: Overheating Bay 1, can I move it?
Just moving one of the RAID1 pair to another slot, should not, IMHO, work. The config files have the HDDs in bays 1 and 2 paired.
But, as storageman says, be sure and back everything up first.
But, as storageman says, be sure and back everything up first.
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WD60EFRX-68L0BN1(x1)/68MYMN1(x7) Red HDDs -- RAID6: 8x6TB -- Cold spare: 1x6TB
Entware
===============================
Model: TS-451A -- RAM: 2G -- FW: QTS 4.5.2 Build 20210202 (used as a video server)
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Re: Overheating Bay 1, can I move it?
alastc, Let us know how it goes.
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Re: Overheating Bay 1, can I move it?
Just waiting for drives to arrive (Thursday I think), will report back.
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Re: Overheating Bay 1, can I move it?
I'm back up and running now, I did this:
- Moved the data from bay three onto the RAID 1 in bays 1 & 2 (thankfully I had space), and removed it (doing the volume first, then pool, then drive).
- Added two WD reds to bays 3 & 4, set as RAID 1.
- Copied everything from the old drives to the new.
- Removed the drive from bay 1.
- Wiped the drive in bay 2 and set it up as a new disk.
- Moved the data from the RAID to the new single drive.
The heat is now a managable 34-39 degrees C, with moderate fan use (751RPM).
So in conclusion, the 4TB HGST (7200RPM Deskstar) runs a bit hot, too hot for bay 1 in a TS-453 mini at least. I've still got 1 of them in bay 2, which is hotter by 4 degrees, but not too bad on its own.
- Moved the data from bay three onto the RAID 1 in bays 1 & 2 (thankfully I had space), and removed it (doing the volume first, then pool, then drive).
- Added two WD reds to bays 3 & 4, set as RAID 1.
- Copied everything from the old drives to the new.
- Removed the drive from bay 1.
- Wiped the drive in bay 2 and set it up as a new disk.
- Moved the data from the RAID to the new single drive.
The heat is now a managable 34-39 degrees C, with moderate fan use (751RPM).
So in conclusion, the 4TB HGST (7200RPM Deskstar) runs a bit hot, too hot for bay 1 in a TS-453 mini at least. I've still got 1 of them in bay 2, which is hotter by 4 degrees, but not too bad on its own.