Mac Pro 2013 10Gbe Problem

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Mac Pro 2013 10Gbe Problem

Post by bfeagle » Sat Apr 10, 2021 4:48 am

This is for a single-user, video production environment. Is the Mac Pro, late 2013, built-in ethernet connections really 10Gb? Everywhere I read says that's the spec. But I see no one using it that way. All of the info I find here shows you guys using TB2 to 10Gbe or external chassis adaptors.

The reason I ask is I have just received a TS-932PX to replace my old Pegasus2 R4. I put a 10Gtek transceiver to RJ45 in the QNAP and connected it directly to my Mac Pro. I can only get 100Mbs writes and 60Mbs reads. The NAS and Mac report a 10Gb connection. Tried jumbo frames at 9000 with little improvement. Now If I connect to the 932PX thru its 2.5Gb connection. Both NAS and Mac report a 1Gb connection. I get 110Mbs write and read.

The 932PX has 5 Seagate IronWolf 4TB drives in a RAID5 direct volume. No SSD cache yet.

What do you think? Do I need to get a TB2-10Gbe dongle to have a real 10Gb connection?

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Re: Mac Pro 2013 10Gbe Problem

Post by dolbyman » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:00 am

I don't see any ethernet ports here

https://support.apple.com/kb/sp691?locale=en_CA

What 10Gtek adapter do you have ? The one that was just discussed in the German Qnap forum (was that you?) can only do 100/1000/10000Mbit, but not 2.5 or 5 Gbit

*edit* .. poster in the German forum had a 332X and a QSW-1105T.. so not you

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Re: Mac Pro 2013 10Gbe Problem

Post by bfeagle » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:07 am

A Mac Pro. Not a MacBook Pro

https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_ ... specs.html

It was not me on the other forum.

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Re: Mac Pro 2013 10Gbe Problem

Post by dolbyman » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:13 am

On the linked Website it says 1GbE not 10GbE
Screenshot_2021-04-09 Mac Pro Eight Core 3 0 (Late 2013) Specs (Late 2013, MQGG2LL A , MacPro6,1, A1481, 2630) EveryMac com.png
same on the official apple site
https://support.apple.com/kb/sp697?locale=en_CA
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Re: Mac Pro 2013 10Gbe Problem

Post by OneCD » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:24 am

Agree: looks like 10GbE wasn't included until 2019: https://everymac.com/systems/by_capabil ... ernet.html

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Re: Mac Pro 2013 10Gbe Problem

Post by bfeagle » Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:53 am

"Head Slap!"

Boy, Have been reading that wrong. Just now in the shower, I realized that was probably the case. Thanks for the confirmation.

I'll go and find myself a recommended adaptor and get back to work.

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Re: Mac Pro 2013 10Gbe Problem

Post by Bob Zelin » Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:25 am

Hi Bruce -
you will have nothing but disappointment. Do they even still make the TS-932PX ? What a piece of junk.
This is 2021. While I would have recommended the TS-h886 (which requires the optional 10G card QNAP QXG-10G1T) which is a 6 bay, you might
be able to get away with the TS-h686, which is a 4 bay (and yes, needs the QXG-10G1T).

But Thunderbolt 2 computers are dead, and if you are running a new operating system like macOS 10.11 Big Sur, you won't get any of the old 10G adapters to work like the Sonnet Twin 10G or Promise SanLink2. You are now "stuck" with the Sonnet Solo 10G T2, which is $199, and you will max out at 400 - 500 MB/sec over 10G with this adapter. Let me be clear. You could have an even larger QNAP (a 12 bay or 16 bay) and you are not exceeding these speeds with the Solo 10G T2.
Apple is doing everything they can to obsolete all the old Thunderbolt 2 hardware, so you won't get the old wonderful Thunderbolt 2 to 10G adapters to work with
a new operating system.

Get rid of that TS-932PX.

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Re: Mac Pro 2013 10Gbe Problem

Post by bokr71 » Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:03 pm

For those who are happy with your Mac Pro 2013s, there is an easy way to get 10GbE...

The Sonnet series of expansion boxes, TB2 or TB3, can easily accommodate the Sonnet Solo10G PCIe card, and that will get you full blown 10GbE on your Mac Pro. If you get a TB3 expansion box, you can use the Apple TB3-TB2 adapter.

Of course you can always setup the direct connection via Thunderbolt as well, it is actually faster than 10GbE. However, the latest beta of macOS screws that up entirely, as Thunderbolt Bridges are not working at the moment.
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