Running Windows 11 in Virtualization Station

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Running Windows 11 in Virtualization Station

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Unfortunately the new Windows 11 requirements will prevent QNAP owners from running it in virtualization station. Primarily because virtualization station does not support TPM (i.e. secure boot). I was wondering if anyone has thought of a workaround. Perhaps updating the SeaBIOS (see viewtopic.php?t=149939), running another virtual platform, running a patch or emulating TPM, etc. I have no idea if the previous is even possible. Ideas?
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wait and see I guess...
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dolbyman wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:45 am wait and see I guess...
Yes Indeed. Knowing how they've done thing so far, I think there is not much other options.

I'm also waiting and hoping they will make it happen sooner than later. :)
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I don't see any problem in running Win11 in VS :arrow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC0C-w-b7go
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And I tested a few seconds ago the VM with Windows 11 (virtIO drivers for discs and network) in Virtualization Station and it works like a charm 8)

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Hey antik, I ran the upgrade assistant in my w10 vm running in vs. The output announced that I would not be able to upgrade to w11 stating it was bc my system did not support TPM.

I hope you are right! Not sure if that is being enforced in the preview you ran. They do keep changing the requirements. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tomsg ... d-bad-news.
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Updated Win11 to last build 22000.176 and still all is fine 8)
By the way, I didn't upgrade from Win10 to Win11, but I did a clean installation of Win11 to the VM.

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paradoxgrowth wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:47 am Hey antik, I ran the upgrade assistant in my w10 vm running in vs. The output announced that I would not be able to upgrade to w11 stating it was bc my system did not support TPM.

I hope you are right! Not sure if that is being enforced in the preview you ran. They do keep changing the requirements. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tomsg ... d-bad-news.
True, but there are ways around that... I've tested it in VMWare and works... No TPM. Search on Youtube... However, i think Microsoft may actually drop TPM on public release, they'd have to. It would be very limited group of PC's otherwise, and break the "How many PC's can run" and the goal of any software/developer is to get as many onto the new stuff as possible..

i believe it would also work on QNAP if you have redone the image. I honestly cannot see how anyone could run Windows 11 on QNAP "without" first redoing the image,
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antik wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:30 am Updated Win11 to last build 22000.176 and still all is fine 8)
By the way, I didn't upgrade from Win10 to Win11, but I did a clean installation of Win11 to the VM.


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I have an update! I was able to upgrade my win10 to 11 preview. This is the same one that was deemed incompatible. We do have to keep in mind this is just the preview they could enforce TPM in the official release. Such an emotional roller coaster. :wink:
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TECH1982 wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 12:43 pm
paradoxgrowth wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:47 am Hey antik, I ran the upgrade assistant in my w10 vm running in vs. The output announced that I would not be able to upgrade to w11 stating it was bc my system did not support TPM.

I hope you are right! Not sure if that is being enforced in the preview you ran. They do keep changing the requirements. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tomsg ... d-bad-news.
True, but there are ways around that... I've tested it in VMWare and works... No TPM. Search on Youtube... However, i think Microsoft may actually drop TPM on public release, they'd have to. It would be very limited group of PC's otherwise, and break the "How many PC's can run" and the goal of any software/developer is to get as many onto the new stuff as possible..

i believe it would also work on QNAP if you have redone the image. I honestly cannot see how anyone could run Windows 11 on QNAP "without" first redoing the image,
I hope you are right, I do feel like it is going to disappoint a lot of ppl. However I do understand why they are doing it. Windows ubiquity has put a target on their backs. Viruses have damaged their reputation. Seems like they are pushing hardware manufacturers to help them beef up security.
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My fears have been realized, it would appear that the real version of windows will not run for more than just the issues with TPM!!!

What the F@&k? It is already running windows 11!
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Bump...Has anyone worked on this? Any workarounds?
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paradoxgrowth wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:30 am Bump...Has anyone worked on this? Any workarounds?
I was able to do a clean install using the regedit LabConfig registry key method. I’m pretty sure there’s different other ways but this one was easy to do and works.

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paradoxgrowth wrote:Bump...Has anyone worked on this? Any workarounds?
Have you opened a ticket with QNAP?


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antik wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:50 am And I tested a few seconds ago the VM with Windows 11 (virtIO drivers for discs and network) in Virtualization Station and it works like a charm 8)


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I'm trying to install it in Virtual Station on my TS-451+ and I keep getting the error, "This PC doesn't meet the minimum system requirements to install this version of Windows. For more information, visit https://aka.ms/windowsSysReq"

Is this due to the specification on my QNAP or is there a setting I'm missing?
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