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WE NEED PHP 7 in firmware, NOW

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I've just migrated the data from my old NAS (as it had EOL) to the new one.
Unfortunately even though it is fully updated, the PHP is still very old (5.60), we need 7.0 or even 7.1 quite soon.
Joomla and everything else is moaning every time it runs into such an old PHP version.
QNAP, get it solved!
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Re: WE NEED PHP 7 in firmware, NOW

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...and the same moaning will come for users operating Web apps not PHP 7 compatible yet.

We had this very same discussion on an earlier major PHP update, where I had pushed QNAP very early - and they rolled back on short notice.

Trouble is QTS and the user Web apps use the same version, and we've lost the capability for a user side PHP version selection by installing the "right" PHP.
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you can always run VM with the latest and greatest of web services
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schumaku wrote:...and the same moaning will come for users operating Web apps not PHP 7 compatible yet.
Thats what people say if they are to Lazy to make updates.



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johnripper wrote:Thats what people say if they are to Lazy to make updates.
While I don't disagree much - but some really can't update....
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schumaku wrote:
johnripper wrote:Thats what people say if they are to Lazy to make updates.
While I don't disagree much - but some really can't update....
Can't...of course not. And as older as the Software gets, as more excuses there are.

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Re: WE NEED PHP 7 in firmware, NOW

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I agree that we urgently need PHP Version 7+ on the Qnap NASs as the only web app I use needs this version.

I was seriously thinking about buying a TS-251+ model util I realized how old the PHP support was on the latest operating system.

Will now hang fire on any purchases till the PHP is updated.

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Info from the latest joomla:
Beginning with Joomla! 3.3, the version of PHP this site is using will no longer be supported. Joomla! 3.3 will require at least PHP version 5.3.10 in order to provide enhanced security features to its users.
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schumaku wrote:...and the same moaning will come for users operating Web apps not PHP 7 compatible yet.

We had this very same discussion on an earlier major PHP update, where I had pushed QNAP very early - and they rolled back on short notice.

Trouble is QTS and the user Web apps use the same version, and we've lost the capability for a user side PHP version selection by installing the "right" PHP.
if this was a modular component, couldn't people just install the php version they want? then everyone wins. would that work.

at least i saw this working on a different system.
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fribse wrote:Joomla! 3.3 will require at least PHP version 5.3.10 in order to provide enhanced security features to its users.
So Joomla will work with your PHP v5.6 since it is newer than 5.3.10. 5.6 is not end of life until 31 December 2018.

If you want PHP7 then I would strongly suggest you go down the QApache route until QNAP update their own built in PHP. At present QApache is on PHP 7.1.6 and Apache 2.4.26. There is however a learning curve to it, as the configuration of your website will need to be manually entered into httpd.conf and other *.conf files.

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I hadn't noticed that one, great idea. I don't have any problems with configuring apache (as you might also note from very old posts from me about securing and configuring apache for multiple sites).
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PHP 7.1.7 afaik is due out today. then Stephane will compile a new QApache 2.4.26.717 package.
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Re: WE NEED PHP 7 in firmware, NOW

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from 6th of july to september the 13th is a long time to compile something....

i want to stay with qnap because the overall performance for my customers an me is satisfying.

No php 7 is a definite k.o criterium by now.

It seem most likely that older nas like the ts439 ts459 series where support is dropped in a few day will never get php 7.

It is also most likely that the 10 nas'es (4 here, 6 at customers) have to be replaced, by something else which is also most likely not qnap anymore.

Too sad ... and a lot of in my oppinion unneccessary work ...
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Message from Joomla:
Prepare for the next Major Release of Joomla

Since version 3.7.0

Beginning with Joomla! 4.0 we are raising the minimum server requirements. If you are seeing this message then your current configuration does not meet these new minimum requirements.

The minimum requirements are the following:

PHP 7.0
MySQL 5.5.3
PostgreSQL 9.2
MS SQL will not be supported
MySQL using the legacy `ext/mysql` PHP extension will not be supported, MySQLi or PDO MySQL must be used instead

Please contact your hosting provider to ask how you can meet these raised server requirements - it is usually a very simple change. If you already meet these new requirements then this message will not be displayed.
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Re: WE NEED PHP 7 in firmware, NOW

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fribse wrote:Message from Joomla:

Please contact your hosting provider to ask how you can meet these raised server requirements - it is usually a very simple change. If you already meet these new requirements then this message will not be displayed.
Then contact QNAP directly and ask for your ticket to be passed to the correct team. (SQL/PHP/Web)

tbh I think this should be upgraded via a QPKG rather than just a new version applied to the firmware as many web scripts that are written for 5.5/5.6 will break when updating to php7.x as the some frequently used commands are depreciated.
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