QNAP "The Server is busy or the network is disconnected"

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Re: QNAP "The Server is busy or the network is disconnected"

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Thanks for the reply

I have tried what you suggest but still the same.

I have downloaded the logs, what exactly am I looking for?
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Re: QNAP "The Server is busy or the network is disconnected"

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/var/log/network/err.log may show that the interface goes up&down. I'm not sure where to look and what can be found.
Does it happen with all browsers?

If you have shell access: "ifconfig -a" should show all interfaces and their error counters. At least my qvs0 has a lot of dropped packets, all other interfaces are fine (0).

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qvs0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr ...
inet addr:...
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
RX packets:12629253 errors:0 dropped:310675 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:6510475 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:15488391071 (14.4 GiB)  TX bytes:3847144538 (3.5 GiB)
From a Windows PC "ping /t nas-ip" (Mac/Linux PC "ping nas-ip" ) should show a permanent connection and no lost or delayed packets (<= 1.000 ms).
A duplicate IP or ARP issues may result in such strange issues. "arp -a nas-ip" should always show the same HW / MAC address.
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Re: QNAP "The Server is busy or the network is disconnected"

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It all looks ok with no dropped packets yet still transfer speed is abuot 355kb/s and somtimes peeks for a few seconds to 2mb/s then drops down again.

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[~] # ifconfig -a
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:08:9B:CB:E7:BE
          UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:1029851 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:329519 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:532
          RX bytes:1428618812 (1.3 GiB)  TX bytes:30542951 (29.1 MiB)
          Interrupt:15

eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:08:9B:CB:E7:BF
          inet addr:192.168.0.36  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:2076128 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:761379 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:532
          RX bytes:2559308842 (2.3 GiB)  TX bytes:62508018 (59.6 MiB)
          Interrupt:11

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:48994 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:48994 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
          RX bytes:19565649 (18.6 MiB)  TX bytes:19565649 (18.6 MiB)
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Re: QNAP "The Server is busy or the network is disconnected"

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Please try to ping your NAS for a long time to detect network errors if there are any.

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Windows: ping /t -f -l 1472 192.168.0.36
Linux: ping -m do -s 1472 192.168.0.36
Specifying a larger size like 1474 should always fail as the MTU is 1500 and the packets are not fragmented.
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Re: QNAP "The Server is busy or the network is disconnected"

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Hi

The ping is rock steady

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Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=30ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=30ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=37ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=32ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=26ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=26ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=31ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=30ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=25ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=31ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=36ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=31ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=25ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=23ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=30ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=31ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=22ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=26ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=37ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=26ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=39ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.36: bytes=1472 time=23ms TTL=64

Ping statistics for 192.168.0.36:
    Packets: Sent = 22, Received = 22, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 22ms, Maximum = 39ms, Average = 29ms
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Re: QNAP "The Server is busy or the network is disconnected"

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Here are some more test results

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Kernel Log

ata1: hard resetting link -- Count:1
ata2: hard resetting link -- Count:11
ata3: hard resetting link -- Count:2
ata4: hard resetting link -- Count:1
exception -- Count:12
bus error -- Count:1

[ File system test report ]

Test volume : /share/MD0_DATA
Block device : /dev/md0
Left space : 11248719 MB
Test start : Sat Mar 9 12:32:12 GMT 2019
Test finish : Sat Mar 9 12:49:49 GMT 2019
Write 2GB performance : 2.27 MB/s
Read 2GB performance : 13.65 MB/s
Use extents : 137

[ Free frags before test ]

Device: /dev/md0
Blocksize: 4096 bytes

[ File flags on this test ]

Filesystem type is: ef53
File size of /share/MD0_DATA/test_2G is 2147483648 (524288 blocks, blocksize 4096)
ext logical physical expected length flags
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136 522240 47753216 47751167 2048 eof

Disk Performance

Path: /dev/sda
Performance: 10.13 MB/sec
Path: /dev/sdb
Performance: 2.47 MB/sec
Path: /dev/sdc
Performance: 12.97 MB/sec
Path: /dev/sdd
Performance: 67.88 MB/sec
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Re: QNAP "The Server is busy or the network is disconnected"

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Ok I have found out what the cause of the slowness is but it ** !!!!

I uninstalled ALL apps from the NAS all I left was Control Panel and App Center and hey presto my network speeds and web interface speeds increased dramatically, download up to 25-30 MB/s.

I then went and instilled just 1 app which was FileFlex connector and bam speeds hit the floor again!! So it seems to me the device is not able to handle anything added and will only run efficiently on bare bones which is really not good. :( :( :( :(

also a process called freshclam which has something to do with anti virus seems to hog a lot of resource and hence it also heavily reduces the download speed, killing that process makes a big difference to the download speed.I realise that this is probably not best practice but seems to be a trade off that needs to be made for speed.

in ssh type
#top
look for the freshclam process and find PID

type
~kill (PID NUMBER)
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Re: QNAP "The Server is busy or the network is disconnected"

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You may have scheduled a job in 'Control Panel > Applications > Antivirus' which runs ages, depending on your folder selection. You may need to modify or disable the job to make sure that it only runs when the system is not used.
If you really have only 256 MB RAM you should be lucky that the NAS boots at all. No wonder that apps use all disk cache and/or page out relevant pages.
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Re: QNAP "The Server is busy or the network is disconnected"

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Do you see some strange things in the resource monitor? Does the CPU usage corresponds to your download speed?

One may create a PHP script to output 1GB dummy data without reading a file. This should allow to measure the network speed without a disk IO bottleneck (if any).
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Re: QNAP "The Server is busy or the network is disconnected"

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i got this issue too plz help :(

few things happened recently

1. updated to qts 4.4.1 from 4.3.6
2. a hdd disk 4 got dropped. did a raid rebuild
3. forced a shutdown because the queue for shutting down services was very slow. after reboot it began to rebuild raid. in log it did not point out any specific hdd with a problem.
4. did a long smart test, scan disk and filesystem check. and also reflashed firmware 4.4.1



ran the test as suggested, no issue here

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Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.17763.503]
(c) 2018 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>ping /t 192.168.0.210

Pinging 192.168.0.210 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.0.210: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.210: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.210: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.210: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.210: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.210: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.210: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.210: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.210: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.210: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.0.210: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

i see drop packets here

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[~] # ifconfig
[~] # eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
-sh: eth0: command not found
[~] #           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
-sh: UP: command not found
[~] #           RX packets:816114 errors:0 dropped:337 overruns:0 frame:0
-sh: RX: command not found
[~] #           TX packets:649319 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
-sh: TX: command not found
[~] #           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
-sh: collisions:0: command not found
[~] #           RX bytes:989959484 (944.0 MiB)  TX bytes:593107548 (565.6 MiB)
-sh: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[~] #           Memory:f6900000-f691ffff
-sh: Memory:f6900000-f691ffff: command not found
[~] #


any ideas whats going on :(



*update

now it shows

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Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.17763.503]
(c) 2018 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\WINDOWS\system32>ping /t 192.168.0.210

Pinging 192.168.0.210 with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
and the qnap rebooted on it's own :'
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Re: QNAP "The Server is busy or the network is disconnected"

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The shell behaves very strange. If you still have shell access you may monitor the system usage ("vmstat 1") to make sure that there are enough free resources.

Did you update to the latest 4.3.6 and with all apps updated before going to 4.4x? Or did you skip some updates? (I updated everything before going to 4.4.x beta as I assume that updates from older versions/apps are often not tested.)
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Re: QNAP "The Server is busy or the network is disconnected"

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I have a TS-453A as well and getting most if not all the issues you describe. I have never had this system stable.
I thought I would start from scratch. I purchased new 10TB drives [WD Red, which are on the compatibility list] and started from a factory reset. I built with a RAID 5, currently 1 storage pool, 1 volume and no data on the system. I have purposely not transferred any data onto it. And still I get issues logging in, network disconnected and when I ssh in and reboot, the volume needs a filesystem check.

I know Qnap systems work, since I have an older TS-569 Pro and this has always worked as it should, never had any issues.
I have no idea what to do now with the TS-453A - it seems just not to work properly and I don't trust it with any data
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Re: QNAP "The Server is busy or the network is disconnected"

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The error message in this thread is very generic and can be caused by just about anything; hardware, software and/or incorrect configurations. The thread now attracts everyone with odd problems. Notice that there's no common pattern with anything here, NAS models are all over the place (cat1, cat2, old and new) and everyone is using different firmware versions. Good things never come out of these threads as they're just a dump of complains for those with unsolved odd issues but with far too many unknowns for anybody to be able to help.

For those that really want to be helped you should find better threads (users of beta software should obviously be in a beta forum) or if you can't find a thread, start your own. And as usual, form the start state the facts about what NAS model, disk models and other hardware, what software is used and tell us how it's all configured. The more experienced here in the forum get fed up with having to ask for every little detail every time and in the end they get reluctant to help when they need to spend more time asking for all the details of the installations than actually getting to think about the issues.
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A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.

All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
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Re: QNAP "The Server is busy or the network is disconnected"

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Config: TS-251A, CPU: Celeron N3060, 8GB RAM, 2TB HDDs RAID-1, firmware: 4.5.1.1495

All,
I have the same issue as described in muliple posts above: after some time of operation (+1hr) the NAS user interface does not open up apps anymore (or sometimes very slowly).

E.g. when opening up File Station, it opens a new window, shows the hierarchy on the left and then it stays put for multiple (>5) minutes on "Loading.." or "Please Wait..." (see attachment). This "Loading..." disappears and the window/app hangs up or comes alive after many minutes of waiting.
Same thing for Container Station, Hybrid Backup & Sync, ...

E.g. File Station: after many minutes of waiting and seeing the app seemingly loading the filesystem hierarchy of the NAS on the left-side (see attachment "File-Sation-1.jpg), the window becomes active. All items in the left-side menu are active, except the filesystem hierarchy of the NAS (clicking has no effect) !. See attachment File-Station-2.jpg.

In order to get these apps working again for a while, I need to reboot the NAS ==> unworkable situation.

I am sure it is NOT:
- lack of CPU cycles - on average below 20%
- lack of memory - on average below 25%
- the network config: NAS is still consistently ping-able, network file tranfers work, ...

I have removed as many apps as I could, to eliminate as many potential culprits as possible.

My impressions:
- It looks to be an issue with the UI, or some processes blocking the UI (some poorly designed web-code, ... ?)
- It seems as if the "Loading..." process, does not get the response it requires in due time (after a long while), due to some reasons that do not exist yet after a fresh reboot.

Any help, guidance would be greatly appreciated !
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Re: QNAP "The Server is busy or the network is disconnected"

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So, where do we go with issues like this?
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