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issues windows 11?

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Is it just me or is anyone else having issues with windows 11?

few things i noticed

1. the network discovery sometimes works, and sometimes it doesn't. meaning that i may see the nas show in network discovery, but other times it's missing. but despite that, using a manual shortcut i can still access the nas and perform the transfers as per usual.

2. accessing a different qnap nas model, tbs-453dx, i had very slow transfer speed. but oddly no issue on the ts-877. however i suspect this issue is most likely due to a bad cable. i just mention it here anyway just in case

3. at one point, even the transfer performance on the ts-877 felt slow not sure y. but to troubleshoot, i reset network and that seemed to have ironed out whatever misconfiguration i had done


anyone had similar issues or different ones? just wondering :'


i was trying to follow some trouble shoot guides, but i'm not sure that it's wise or even necessary to even enable smb1. windows should support smb 2 -3 right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39vOsp86uzI
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[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1

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Re: issues windows 11?

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running win11 on two computers..none have issues with 951x or 419p+
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dolbyman wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:08 pm running win11 on two computers..none have issues with 951x or 419p+
ok then i suspect it's more likely a cable issue. i'll try find a spare to test with :?

The only tinkering i did with win 11 was debloat some of it. not too aggresively (i removed some of the debloat settings which i was worried may cause issues with usability)
https://github.com/builtbybel/ThisIsWin11

and install mullvad vpn *the file sharing option for the vpn doesn't seem to work (sometimes the update for this app works, then it doesn't in the next update, so i'm not too surprised. but usually if u disable ur vpn and not have the force close connections when not using vpn, this enables back access to your networking devices like QNAP again)
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[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1

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Re: issues windows 11?

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i never install vpn stuff on the clients..all handled by the router (tunnel redirect based on mac)
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Re: issues windows 11?

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dolbyman wrote: Fri Dec 03, 2021 9:28 pm i never install vpn stuff on the clients..all handled by the router (tunnel redirect based on mac)
yes thats one way to do it. mullvad even supports that. but it's a headache to setup. especially if u don't plan to vpn everything on your entire network, then you have to setup splitters (one vlan uses vpn, and the other doesn't). just using the desktop is just easier for any machines on the network that want to use it.
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[Main Server] QNAP TS-877 (QTS) w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE
[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1

Network
Qotom Pfsense|100mbps FTTH | Win11, Ryzen 5600X Desktop (1x2tb Crucial P50 Plus M.2 SSD, 1x 8tb seagate Ironwolf,1x 4tb HGST Ultrastar 7K4000)


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Re: issues windows 11?

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as said it's based on mac ..you can choose specific tunnels for specific devices...and a catch all default (no vpn for default in my case)
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Re: issues windows 11?

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no issues here with 2 w11 pc's and 4 NAS's
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Re: issues windows 11?

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i did further troubleshoot.

i also have a laptop with windows 11. so i performed the same test (because they are different machines, i wanted to check whether the issue is win11 or device specific), and it worked fine. although because it used wireless, obviously the performance isn't that gr8, but at least it moves and it completed.

i also tried changing the ethernet cable, and also trying a different port, no improvement on desktop.

so i'm thinking that one of the changes i did caused this. because i remember clearly being able to

1. detect nas on network in "network" devices on network and the nas listed
2. transfers to the TBS-453DX was working.

But currently, ts-877 works, but for some reason the TBS-453DX doesn't. I mean, i can access the nas QTS web login, and also the share directory path. The issue is when trying to transfer folders/files from the device.

So i'm gonna try a windows 11 reset and see if that solves the issue. I tried earlier doing network reset and all that, but nothing helped. so have to try a clean install. For good measure i also ran malwarebytes and the windows defender scan just in case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s0cdMpixl8
NAS
[Main Server] QNAP TS-877 (QTS) w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE
[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1

Network
Qotom Pfsense|100mbps FTTH | Win11, Ryzen 5600X Desktop (1x2tb Crucial P50 Plus M.2 SSD, 1x 8tb seagate Ironwolf,1x 4tb HGST Ultrastar 7K4000)


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Re: issues windows 11?

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just an update.

so i did a windows 11 reset. then i installed the basics. then finally i did the windows11 bloatware remover script, but i was careful not to select anything that may impact the networking features.

then i tested networks, and sure enuff the NAS and devices on network is detected. Also the issue i was having with TBS-453DX has been resolved.

my last theory that somehow the mullvad vpn app was causing this issue, but even after installing it, it worked fine. maybe cauz i have to restart first (i'll check this later)

How the issue started in first place, no idea. But we can rule out hardware and cable issues. I can only narrow this down to a windows 11 misconfiguration, although i can't pinpoint which settings exactly.

Anyway now i am slowly progressively tweaking some settings, and testing every now and then to see if i accidentally land on a land mind. also i have system restores just in case.


by the way the transfer tests i did is 2 types

1. transfer from ts-877 to tbs-453dx using the windows 11 pc as an intermediary.
2. copy from ts-877, then from the desktop pc, copy to the tbs-453dx.

i use both the standard windows explorer and teracopy.


while i'm doing this testing for windows 11, just to inform, smb access to the nas works for both qnap and truenas. if anyones on the fence about win11, this is one less thing to worry about.

i'm still trying to figure out if there any huge deal breakers with windows 11, can't find one big hurdle for me just yet.
NAS
[Main Server] QNAP TS-877 (QTS) w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE
[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1

Network
Qotom Pfsense|100mbps FTTH | Win11, Ryzen 5600X Desktop (1x2tb Crucial P50 Plus M.2 SSD, 1x 8tb seagate Ironwolf,1x 4tb HGST Ultrastar 7K4000)


Resources
[Review] Moogle's QNAP experience
[Review] Moogle's TS-877 review
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