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Best NAS hard drives 2022: reliable storage for NAS

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https://www.windowscentral.com/best-and ... nology-nas

seems like a paid review but i read it and it's applicable for any brand nas really, and it's a fair assesment.

personally i recommend seagate ironwolves non pro. My criteria though is budget minded and still albeit reliable, fast but still low rpm, and use as little power as possible, and has good smart testing. seagate ironwolves fit the bill. not to mentioned i was more than a little iffed with western digitals scamming others, so to punish them, don't buy their products unless they give you a good reason to (may not like them, but i always go for good deals :mrgreen: )

Here is proof of my own recent purchases. I put my money where my mouth is.
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as to why i have a 8tb there, i use that for my desktop. probly overkill though for non raid but i just don't trust regular hdd drives. i've had bad experiences with those in the past.

for the record, prior to my seagate ironwolf purchases, i did buy 2 wd reds (thkfully they were not smr, i dodged a bullet there :S the ones were affected were the newer wd red reds that came after mine. now there are newer wd red pluses that are not smr :roll: ). but as you can tell i'm not gonna be buying any wd reds anytime soon :x

i buy 4tbs cauz that within my budget. i need 4 of them for use in raid5 (and another 4 for the backup). If your budget allows for it you can go for higher capacity, i just get what works for me :)

The older hgst deskstars (with questionable reliability cause i had that medium errors pop in qts), i'll use them for a backup emergency (i have other backups so it's not like i'm 100% trusting these as my fail safe, but more backups why not. i got extra devices to fit them into).

i got these seagate ironwolves running 24/7 in a ts-877 qnap nas, a fracal torrent pc case (with scythe fuma 2 pc fan cooler, and the default pc case fans *they are huge). Under these conditions i don't have any noise issues. Not saying it's perfectly silent but, it's not to the point of it being a problem, so that's my review on that.

*this is not a seagate sponsored ad. i just genuinely share what i use and recommend for others in the same boat. Feel free to get other alternatives if you prefer, such as wd reds, toshiba n300. Probly others but i don't know what those are, i only know 3 brands that offer hdd nas drives on budget :'


i tried to find a newer video that compared all 3 brands, but all i could find was this. also like she pointed out, the different capacity sizes may have difference performance, so google, reddit or youtube those capacity sizes specifically to find a more accurate comparison for the capacity you are looking at.

The Best NAS Drives of 2020 - 8 TB & 14 TB Roundup (WD Red, Red Pro, Seagate Ironwolf, Toshiba N300)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEtEkp_nmZ4



and just to remind, stay away from smr for raid purposes.

Testing WD Red 4TB SMR vs CMR HDDs in a ZFS NAS Array - Skip SMR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hdJTwaTl8I

Why are Drive Manufacturers in BIG TROUBLE?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aztTf2gI55k



and other news for whats new and upcoming 2022 and onwards. where are the mamr and hamr hard drives? this is all i could find on that

https://www.anandtech.com/show/17097/we ... re-unclear
https://www.techradar.com/sg/news/could ... against-it

Showa Denko K.K. (SDK), the world's largest independent maker of hard drive platters, has confirmed that it developed media featuring MAS-MAMR (microwave assisted switching-microwave assisted magnetic recording) technology. Eventually, this technology will allow Toshiba, one of the key customers of SDK, to build HDDs with capacities of over 30TB.

MAS-MAMR is essentially a superset of MAMR technology, which alters magnetic coercivity of hard drive media using microwaves. With MAS-MAMR, coercivity is altered even more significantly, allowing even narrower tracks and thus increased areal density. The technology was co-developed by Showa Denko (media with a brand-new magnetic), TDK (read/write heads equipped with dual spin-injection-layer), and Toshiba (drives). The three companies did not disclose the actual areal density, but they indicate that MAS-MAMR will enable Toshiba to build HDDs with over 30TB capacities. They also didn't say how many platters these drives will feature.

Changing platters and read/write heads is a big deal for HDD makers. Typically, companies prefer to change one crucial component of their drives, but with heat-assisted magnetic recording (HAMR), Seagate had to significantly alter the architecture of its hard drives. Apparently, Toshiba will have similar challenges with MAS-MAMR. Meanwhile, the good news is that the technology seems to scale, so it will be used for years to come.

Toshiba has already started shipments of MAMR-based 18TB HDDs for nearline and enterprise-grade NAS applications. MAS-MAMR platters and heads will be used for its second-generation MAMR drives. Unfortunately, Toshiba does not say when such drives will hit the market.

Perpendicular magnetic recording (PMR) is running out of steam, so manufacturers need to use various energy-assisted magnetic recording (EAMR) technologies to tangibly increase the capacities of their hard drives. Seagate was first out of the gate with HAMR, but currently such HDDs are only available to select customers. By contrast, Western Digital (or rather its HGST division) bet on MAMR initially, but then chose to use energy-assisted PMR (ePMR) for commercial hard drives last year.

Recently, Western Digital implied that ePMR is a good enough technology to increase HDD capacities for years to come, before HAMR takes over, which left us wondering about the fate of MAMR. While we still have no idea regarding Western Digital's MAMR plans, it looks like Toshiba, Showa Denko, and TDK believe that MAMR and MAS-MAMR technologies have strong potential for capacity growth.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/toshi ... ard-drives

Microwave Assisted Magnetic Recording (MAMR) Presentation plus Q and A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoOjrnVM3VM
Last edited by Moogle Stiltzkin on Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:59 am, edited 11 times in total.
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[Main Server] QNAP TS-877 (QTS) w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE
[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1

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Re: Best NAS hard drives 2022: reliable storage for NAS

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if you want highest capacity drives, they have that now too.

like the 20tbs, but you'd be paying a premium for those, $675 MSRP :shock:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuQgekErmcA
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[Main Server] QNAP TS-877 (QTS) w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE
[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1

Network
Qotom Pfsense|100mbps FTTH | Win11, Ryzen 5600X Desktop (1x2tb Crucial P50 Plus M.2 SSD, 1x 8tb seagate Ironwolf,1x 4tb HGST Ultrastar 7K4000)


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Re: Best NAS hard drives 2022: reliable storage for NAS

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my 2 more new seagate ironwolves arrived. so i'm in the process of rebuilding raid yet again. it says 6-7 hours to rebuild. so gonna wait for that to finish (when rebuilding raid, it's highly recommended to set your raid rebuild speed to the max, if you haven't yet already), before repeating for the 2nd drive.

before doing rebuilds, always have a backup just in case fyi. no guarantee rebuilds will be successful for various reasons. heck just imagine if i had a powercut during the rebuild.... :S that would ** bad.


anyway the process is, remove 1 of the older hdds, it then complains degraded mode (i use raid5). Then insert the new drive. It will soon begin the rebuild.

Before doing this, you can opt to test your new drive first whether it has issues or not.

when rebuild completes, and everything works, you can repeat the same process for the next drive. in raid5 i believe it only allows 1 drive remove, so thats why i'm doing it one at a time. The other option is to do it all at once (which kills your raid essentially and the data on it) and just recover from backup. Up to you which method you prefer doing this upgrade procedure for swapping to newer drives :)
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[Main Server] QNAP TS-877 (QTS) w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE
[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1

Network
Qotom Pfsense|100mbps FTTH | Win11, Ryzen 5600X Desktop (1x2tb Crucial P50 Plus M.2 SSD, 1x 8tb seagate Ironwolf,1x 4tb HGST Ultrastar 7K4000)


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Re: Best NAS hard drives 2022: reliable storage for NAS

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ok so the raid rebuild worked fine. i did 3 raid rebuilds recently, and all rebuilded without a hitch :X

using the latest qts 5 fyi.
NAS
[Main Server] QNAP TS-877 (QTS) w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE
[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1

Network
Qotom Pfsense|100mbps FTTH | Win11, Ryzen 5600X Desktop (1x2tb Crucial P50 Plus M.2 SSD, 1x 8tb seagate Ironwolf,1x 4tb HGST Ultrastar 7K4000)


Resources
[Review] Moogle's QNAP experience
[Review] Moogle's TS-877 review
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