[HOW TO] Recover no beep / dead Intel based Qnap x53/x51 (2014~2016?)

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spile wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 1:26 pm “Hi I tried this fix. It does work, but only some weird conditions”

But you didn’t explain WHAT those conditions were. Reading your posts suggests that NOTHING you tried has worked.
If I was connecting a dupont cable to the pin, then the resistor and then another cable (basically having the resistor connected but through a long cable) it was working. Directly soldered, not.
On an youtube video someone told me that it might have been due to changing induttance. So he was suggesting to use an higher resistance.
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adetogni wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 6:36 pm
spile wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 1:26 pm “Hi I tried this fix. It does work, but only some weird conditions”

But you didn’t explain WHAT those conditions were. Reading your posts suggests that NOTHING you tried has worked.
If I was connecting a dupont cable to the pin, then the resistor and then another cable (basically having the resistor connected but through a long cable) it was working. Directly soldered, not.
On an youtube video someone told me that it might have been due to changing induttance. So he was suggesting to use an higher resistance.

Good advice. Try a slightly higher value resistor. I’d also measure the resistance with a multimeter as they vary and not always within tolerance.
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spile wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:38 pm

Good advice. Try a slightly higher value resistor. I’d also measure the resistance with a multimeter as they vary and not always within tolerance.
Thanks. Yesterday I realized that the power adapter was not fully plugged in, so that's the reason why it wasn't switching on. It is working on. Tonight I'll try with a higher resistance.
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Hi folks,

Long but interesting read, pfieuw! I'm ready to give it a try myself as well. Let's revive the dead. ;)

Would anyone be able to share a picture of a TS-453A motherboard onto which you soldered your solution? I haven't seen many people referencing to that model of NAS in the past 22 pages I browsed through TBH. It would give me just that little additional assurance that I am doing it right.

Thanks in advance.
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Hi folks,

OK, I tried it, but it failed. :-(

I measure on both pin 6 and 8 -0,05V. Which seemed to indicate I had to connect pin 1 with pin 6 as per the schema (if Vk is <1Volt --> pin 1 and pin 6).
I first tried that, but no luck. Next, I gave it a try with pin 1 and 8. Also, no luck.

I attached the photos of my setup for my QNAP TS-453A. The resistor I build nicely measures 100 Ohm.

Any ideas what else I can check or try here? Or is it to be truly considered dead, and no reanimation possible any more?

Thanks for any suggestions you may have.

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So try with a 80 or a 120 Ohm resistor.
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spile wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:04 pm So try with a 80 or a 120 Ohm resistor.
I tried with a 121, 151 and 181 ohm resistor. No luck. In the end, I kept the long cables and it works, I'll keep it as a backup device at my parent's home as remote replica
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I tried with a 121, 151 and 181 ohm resistor. No luck. In the end, I kept the long cables and it works, I'll keep it as a backup device at my parent's home as remote replica

What do you mean with "...I kept the long cables..."?

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nonkelsue2 wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:11 am What do you mean with "...I kept the long cables..."?
see here
viewtopic.php?f=45&t=157459&start=300#p845961
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I am searching to find the suggested 121, 151 and 181 ohm resistors to test it with those, as the 100 Ohm ones I made are not solving the problem.

Something I noticed (and perhaps this is just plain normal) is that when I connect my fan to the motherboard and touch one of the pins of the LCLK connector with my multimeter pins, the fan starts spinning. But as said, that might be just normal behaviour... (is it?).
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Depends on what mode the multi meter is in, are you testing continuity,resistance,?
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dolbyman wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:55 am Depends on what mode the multi meter is in, are you testing continuity,resistance,?
This is the setup where the fan starts to spin for a short amount of time.
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Hmm .. not sure, normally the voltmeter should be (pretty much) open circuit when in this mode. (so it should not act as a short between the probes)
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dolbyman wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:13 am
nonkelsue2 wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:11 am What do you mean with "...I kept the long cables..."?
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yes exactly
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nonkelsue2 wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 1:49 am I am searching to find the suggested 121, 151 and 181 ohm resistors to test it with those, as the 100 Ohm ones I made are not solving the problem.

Something I noticed (and perhaps this is just plain normal) is that when I connect my fan to the motherboard and touch one of the pins of the LCLK connector with my multimeter pins, the fan starts spinning. But as said, that might be just normal behaviour... (is it?).
121/151/181 are just the resistance that my shop had in house, they're not specifically recommended. What has been suggested to me was to try with a higher resistance.
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