Rsync, RTRR, NAS to NAS, what is the difference? which should you use?
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Personally i do use rtrr because it had the best transfer performance for me when backing up between 2 qnap nas models.
Qtier vs ssd acceleration, whats the difference? and what are they?
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https://www.qnap.com/solution/ssd-cache/en/
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QNAPJauss wrote:Hello,
Yes. Multiple RAID group is mandatory.- If I understand it correctly it would be possible to define Qtier using a storage pool with one Raid Group of 6xHDDs (Capacity), and one Raid Group of 2xSSDs (High Speed). Will that work in tandem with allocating a pair of M.2 SSDs for SSD Caching?
1 RAID with HDD and 1 RAID with SSD is the minimum.
It is also possible to expand later by adding HDD or SSD in the RAID groups, or by creating additional RAID group.
You can also enable M.2 SSD cache. ( I presume you are looking at the TVS-x82 Series. )
However, with the current implementation, both can work concurrently, but they are not aware of each other.
Not sure I understand your meaning.- Will I be able to define some specific data to be stored on the SSDs, in addition to the data the Qtier puts there - kinda of like Application-based partitioning...
Qtier give you the possibility to store everything at the same place, and the system will move the frequently accessed data to the SSD automatically.
The advantage is that you do not have to decide yourself where to store the data, Qtier will do it for you.
It is currently not possible to force some data on the SSD only. The data will be move to SSD when being accessed more frequently.
With Qtier, no. The data is moved between HDD and SSD, not replicated.- Will data on the SSDs be replicated on the HDDs?
With SSD Cache for read, yes, the data is replicated to the SSD when cached, but remain on the HDD.
With SSD Cache for write, the data is store temporaly on SSD first, then replicated to the HDD after some times depending on the NAS loading.
You can create multiple storage pool, with or without Qtier.I did, and I understand the Qtier functionality. I was just hoping it might be possible to use 2 SSDs for Qtier as well as for another Storage Pool.
For example :
- 1 QTier Storage pool with some HDD+SSD
- 1 "standard" Storage pool with SSD only (no autotiering on this one)
- 1 "standard" Storage pool with M.2 SSD (no autotiering on this one)
Data on Qtier will be optimized with the SSD in the Qtier pool.
Data on the normal storage pool will remain on the SSD (SATA or M.2).
Note: SSD used with Qtier cannot be used for cache or for another storage pool at the same time.
Each pool or cache volume must have their own SSD.
Hope this help.
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How do I safely remove SSD in acceleration cache or Qtier without loosing any data, is that possible?Trexx wrote:
I think some clarification is needed here:
SSD Cache Acceleration:
QTIER SSD Data Layer:
- Can be disabled/removed and any data in WRITE cache will be destaged to disk (if it hasn't been already)
- Single SSD configured for Read/Write Caching (NOT RECOMMENDED) = Risk of data loss/damage if SSD fails with write data that hasn't been destaged out of cache.
- Redundant Multi SSD Config (RAID-1/5/etc.) Read Write Caching = Risk of data loss if MULTIPLE SSD drives failed prior to write data destaging.
As with all NAS storage, none of these technologies are replacements for BACKUPS!!
- Can only be setup currently at time of storage pool creation. NO option currently to remove SSD tier without destruction of Storage Pool. New pool creation and restoration of data from backup required.
- Redundant Multi SSD Tier (RAID-1/5/etc.) + HDD Tier = heavily accessed data blocks are moved from HDD tier to SSD tier. File potentially could span both tiers (think DB with some recent active data + inactive historical data).
- Risk of data loss if MULTIPLE SSD drives failed at same time (or prior to SSD rebuild completion). Risk is no greater (and likely less) that HDD RAID risk.
Trexx wrote:That is exactly what happens. If you disable/remove the SSD Cache, the NAS will flush any data in cache to disk that hasn't already been de-staged. QNAP does warn about removal of active SSD cache drives from a system during creation but that is because if you were to remove the SSD's (without disabling cache) then you have potential data loss/corruption related to non-destaged data.bruce_miranda wrote:But that is just so bad, if true. What should happen is that if you click the option to disable and remove the Read/Write cache then, it should trigger a process to write all the delta cache data back to the HDD. Once complete you can safely remove the SSD cache drives.
I should be able to confirm what happens shortly.Trexx wrote:Just disable and then delete the cache via Storage Manager.bruce_miranda wrote:So then it's preferable to invest in a PCIe card and go down the M2 NVMe drives route in case you want to use the caching feature, as opposed to using up two slots on your NAS for SSD cache? OK so now I have two SSD SATA drives being used as SSD cache. How do I know I can safely remove them without loosing any data that might be just within the cache?
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