Got my TS-677 up and running! I've taken pictures for reference.

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flymeaway
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Re: Got my TS-677 up and running! I've taken pictures for reference.

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buiz_ wrote:Awesome, I did mean accessing the VM via a client browser so that's great. Will just need to enable audio, surely that's possible.

With that kind of firepower it should be possible to have the NAS output hdmi to a local screen via HDStation, serve a couple of transcoding Plex streams to units as well as provide a VM that's fully equipped to play games that are not too graphically demanding. Now I gotta go add up the numbers for a 64gb ts-877 with two gpu's (why not), a good sdd for caching and a bunch of 10 tb disks. Will not be cheap but oh the awesomeness of that rig... :)

EDIT: it's a cool $3200 (without hdd's, I have those already), but then it's also a beast and will basically supply a household with virtualized machines
I'm not sure you need the full 64gb of RAM. You could start with two stick of 16 (plus the 8 that's already on board). You can use (relatively) cheap-ish 2400mhz UDIMMs, too. It depends a bit on what you're doing in VMs, and how many you'll run simultaneously, but 8 gb per VM with 4 VMs... And RAM is *really* pricey right now, relative to historical -- it might come down a bit.

There are some awesome deals on SSDs right now... $125 for reasonable performance 512gb units. PM me and I can show you where...
David

Model: TS-877 R5-1600 // QTS 4.3.4.0551
Disks: 6x4TB HGST HUS726040ALE610 (RAID 6; QNAP approved) // 1x480gb Sandisk X400 SSD (no RAID; not approved)
RAM: 8gb QNAP OEM; 16gb Ballistix Sport DDR4 2400 MHz
GPU: EVGA GTX 1050 SC Gaming
UPS: CyberPower AVR1350
Cloud Backup: TBD
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Re: Got my TS-677 up and running! I've taken pictures for reference.

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flymeaway wrote:
buiz_ wrote:Awesome, I did mean accessing the VM via a client browser so that's great. Will just need to enable audio, surely that's possible.

With that kind of firepower it should be possible to have the NAS output hdmi to a local screen via HDStation, serve a couple of transcoding Plex streams to units as well as provide a VM that's fully equipped to play games that are not too graphically demanding. Now I gotta go add up the numbers for a 64gb ts-877 with two gpu's (why not), a good sdd for caching and a bunch of 10 tb disks. Will not be cheap but oh the awesomeness of that rig... :)

EDIT: it's a cool $3200 (without hdd's, I have those already), but then it's also a beast and will basically supply a household with virtualized machines
I'm not sure you need the full 64gb of RAM. You could start with two stick of 16 (plus the 8 that's already on board). You can use (relatively) cheap-ish 2400mhz UDIMMs, too. It depends a bit on what you're doing in VMs, and how many you'll run simultaneously, but 8 gb per VM with 4 VMs... And RAM is *really* pricey right now, relative to historical -- it might come down a bit.

There are some awesome deals on SSDs right now... $125 for reasonable performance 512gb units. PM me and I can show you where...
I would agree... the most cost effective option usually is to get the lowest memory config possible (based on model & cpu choice) and then upgrade the memory yourself. WIth DIMM pricing being all over the place lately, the gap maybe slightly lower then normal but you still should see a savings.
Paul

Model: TS-877-1600 FW: 4.5.3.x
QTS (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x 1TB WD Blue m.2's
Data (HDD): [RAID-5] 6 x 3TB HGST DeskStar
VMs (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x1TB SK Hynix Gold
Ext. (HDD): TR-004 [Raid-5] 4 x 4TB HGST Ultastor
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury 64GB DDR4-2666
UPS: CP AVR1350

Model:TVS-673 32GB & TS-228a Offline[/color]
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Re: Got my TS-677 up and running! I've taken pictures for reference.

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Hello,

Do you guys think for a 4-8 vm setup its preferable to go for a Ryzen 7? Or a Ryzen 5 ill do the job? Im thinking in 2 cores per vm...

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Mahkceb wrote:Hello,

Do you guys think for a 4-8 vm setup its preferable to go for a Ryzen 7? Or a Ryzen 5 ill do the job? Im thinking in 2 cores per vm...

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Depends on what each VM is doing. VirtualStation will also do "virtual" CPUs instead of straight passthrough, which the Ryzen excels at (supposedly). If a bunch of your VMs are lightweight you could use "virtual" cores.

Also worth noting: even if you do VM passthrough, you have 12 cores to work with on the Ryzen 5. It takes the 6 hyperthreaded cores and lets you pass each through as a separate CPU, so effectively you have 12 cores to assign to VMs.

Again, a lot depends on what you're doing with the VMs.
David

Model: TS-877 R5-1600 // QTS 4.3.4.0551
Disks: 6x4TB HGST HUS726040ALE610 (RAID 6; QNAP approved) // 1x480gb Sandisk X400 SSD (no RAID; not approved)
RAM: 8gb QNAP OEM; 16gb Ballistix Sport DDR4 2400 MHz
GPU: EVGA GTX 1050 SC Gaming
UPS: CyberPower AVR1350
Cloud Backup: TBD
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Re: Got my TS-677 up and running! I've taken pictures for reference.

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flymeaway wrote:
Mahkceb wrote:Hello,

Do you guys think for a 4-8 vm setup its preferable to go for a Ryzen 7? Or a Ryzen 5 ill do the job? Im thinking in 2 cores per vm...

Enviado do meu SM-N950F através do Tapatalk
Depends on what each VM is doing. VirtualStation will also do "virtual" CPUs instead of straight passthrough, which the Ryzen excels at (supposedly). If a bunch of your VMs are lightweight you could use "virtual" cores.

Also worth noting: even if you do VM passthrough, you have 12 cores to work with on the Ryzen 5. It takes the 6 hyperthreaded cores and lets you pass each through as a separate CPU, so effectively you have 12 cores to assign to VMs.

Again, a lot depends on what you're doing with the VMs.
Thks for the very detailed info @flymeaway

Well i'm thinking in a light SQL Server running in a WServer 2016 or Windows 10, a Torrent Server maybe in windows 10 ou Linux still trying to decide, a Windows 10 for testing purposes and a Plex Server for now :roll:
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jserio wrote: Have you (or anyone else) had a chance to try some other games over the network hosted on the VM? Since this seems to be a niche area right now, there are no YouTube videos showing off cloud gaming from a NAS.
I've used Steam Stream to do gaming on my laptop, but that's within my LAN not truly "cloud." It worked great. The TS-x77 series has a beast of a processor, and performance isn't native but it's close. It's like native for a slightly less-well-specced PC.
David

Model: TS-877 R5-1600 // QTS 4.3.4.0551
Disks: 6x4TB HGST HUS726040ALE610 (RAID 6; QNAP approved) // 1x480gb Sandisk X400 SSD (no RAID; not approved)
RAM: 8gb QNAP OEM; 16gb Ballistix Sport DDR4 2400 MHz
GPU: EVGA GTX 1050 SC Gaming
UPS: CyberPower AVR1350
Cloud Backup: TBD
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Re: Got my TS-677 up and running! I've taken pictures for reference.

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Curious of two things:

1. Can I install a gtx-1080ti into this thing?
2. If I install two GPUs, can I crossfire them?
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1. doubt it..space//power//heat is one thi g
2. very unlikely .. you would need to ask qnap if the board supports sli
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1.- I doubt two 8 pin connectors are avaliable inside (I think only 6 pin )
2.- No space for 2 PCI-E (just one and with height limits)
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Tried anyone to put a Ryzen+ (2000 series) cpu on the QNAP board?
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Kanashii wrote:Tried anyone to put a Ryzen+ (2000 series) cpu on the QNAP board?
I believe someone did try it... doesn't work.
Paul

Model: TS-877-1600 FW: 4.5.3.x
QTS (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x 1TB WD Blue m.2's
Data (HDD): [RAID-5] 6 x 3TB HGST DeskStar
VMs (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x1TB SK Hynix Gold
Ext. (HDD): TR-004 [Raid-5] 4 x 4TB HGST Ultastor
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury 64GB DDR4-2666
UPS: CP AVR1350

Model:TVS-673 32GB & TS-228a Offline[/color]
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2018 Plex NAS Compatibility Guide | QNAP Plex FAQ | Moogle's QNAP Faq
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