foguet wrote:Hello!
Has anyone changed the TS-877 CPU from Ryzen 5 1600 to Ryzen 7 1700?
Any suggestions? Can there be power failure problems?
I'm thinking about changing it and I'd like your opinion
Bigger issue to consider, changing CPU will almost 100% guaranteed void your QNAP warranty.
Also if you look at the passmarks #'s, you will only get about a 10-15% performance improvement since the 6-cores in the R5-1600 are clocked higher than the 8-cores in the R7-1700.
So for single threaded applications, you actually would be taking a performance hit due to lower clock speed. In multi-threaded applications, you will gain in total performance due to the extra cores but on a per core basis you will be slightly lower.
Thanks for your advice. I'm gonna listen to you. I am going to invest this money in more RAM memory up to 64Gb (I will use the QNAP for automated processes with python language, plex, several VM,...)
I've seen in your signature your RAM model, but at least in Spain, it's out of print.
At the moment I have 2 units of this model "Crucial 16GB (1x16GB) 2400 Mhz (PC4-19200) CL17 DR", but I don't know if to return it and buy more speed. Any recommendations? Any incompatibilities? thanks a loot!!!
Model: TS-877-1600 FW: 4.4.2.x RAM: 4x 16Gb Crucial CT2K16G4DFD824A GPU: GeForce GTX 1050 UPS: Eaton Ellipse PRO 1200 Media Boxes: Nvidia Shield; Fire Stick 4K; Odroid C2 (Kodi)
foguet wrote:
Thanks for your advice. I'm gonna listen to you. I am going to invest this money in more RAM memory up to 64Gb (I will use the QNAP for automated processes with python language, plex, several VM,...)
I've seen in your signature your RAM model, but at least in Spain, it's out of print.
At the moment I have 2 units of this model "Crucial 16GB (1x16GB) 2400 Mhz (PC4-19200) CL17 DR", but I don't know if to return it and buy more speed. Any recommendations? Any incompatibilities? thanks a loot!!!
I would probably recommend opening a new thread for this discussions. As for more speed, you would be better off getting something faster than CL17 @ 2400 since at full 64GB, you won't be at 2400 Mhz anyway (more dimms = lower clock). I just went with the models since they were on a good sale at the time and were Ryzen certified.
Paul
Model:TS-877-1600FW:4.5.3.x QTS (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x 1TB WD Blue m.2's Data (HDD): [RAID-5] 6 x 3TB HGST DeskStar VMs (SSD): [RAID-1] 2 x1TB SK Hynix Gold Ext. (HDD): TR-004 [Raid-5] 4 x 4TB HGST Ultastor RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury 64GB DDR4-2666 UPS: CP AVR1350
Weather_Underground wrote:Pointless, from my point of view.
I can see many reasons for multiple NASes:
Main and backup storages
Multiple sites
Silent NAS by the TV and a noisy large capacity storage hidden away
Test environment for software before introducing it in production
External service NAS for security reasons isolated on a DMZ
Surveillance server for security reasons isolated on a mangement network
My reasons are the first two.
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!
A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.
All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!
Alternatively you can setup to access the qnap VM via network rather than HDMI
What do you mean exactly? RDP?
Friendly Greetings,
RobB
Main NAS: Model:TS-253D - 20200725 Boot:- Raid 1: 2x 1 TB m.2 WD Red Disks - 6TB WD Red, 350GB WD blue 2.5"
BACKUP NAS (On 2 hours a day due to Electricity costs) Model:TvS-673 40GB (2*32+2*4) - 20170215 Boot:-Raid 1: 2x Crucial M.2 275GB 2x Disks Raid 1:-3.5" 2x Toshiba 10 TB UPS: Back-UPS Pro BR900G-GR
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Alternatively you can setup to access the qnap VM via network rather than HDMI
What do you mean exactly? RDP?
oo well to access vm, you can do so via
1. plug monitor to hdmi port (which is the installed nvidia graphics card)
or
2. connect remotely via web browser to the VM. basically, i login to the QTS desktop (in my case i was on local lan), then browse to virtual station. Then there is a pop up link for that VM, which opens a browser tab. That was what i meant You can then select the bandwidth speed for video quality for when accessing the VM that way. For me when comparing to hdmi method, it wasn't as smooth. so if i was seriously using VM, i would rather opt for HDMI method since it works better in usability. https://www.qnap.com/en-us/how-to/faq/a ... -my-device
NAS [Main Server]QNAP TS-877 (QTS) w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE [Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial [^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5 [^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5 [^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale) [Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1
I still have the 673. And do some sort of Virtio/passthrough on that internal videocard.
And I mostly connect to the VM's by RDP (Windows pc/server). And that is faster then the webbrowser.
Though with the help I got lately, I saw that the VirtIO did speed up the webinterface as well.
Thank you.
Friendly Greetings,
RobB
Main NAS: Model:TS-253D - 20200725 Boot:- Raid 1: 2x 1 TB m.2 WD Red Disks - 6TB WD Red, 350GB WD blue 2.5"
BACKUP NAS (On 2 hours a day due to Electricity costs) Model:TvS-673 40GB (2*32+2*4) - 20170215 Boot:-Raid 1: 2x Crucial M.2 275GB 2x Disks Raid 1:-3.5" 2x Toshiba 10 TB UPS: Back-UPS Pro BR900G-GR
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aarbee wrote:I still have the 673. And do some sort of Virtio/passthrough on that internal videocard. And I mostly connect to the VM's by RDP (Windows pc/server). And that is faster then the webbrowser.
Though with the help I got lately, I saw that the VirtIO did speed up the webinterface as well.
Thank you.
o there is a difference?
I will keep that in mind for next time ty. are you using a specific software for rdp? sorry not familiar with that method.
NAS [Main Server]QNAP TS-877 (QTS) w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE [Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial [^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5 [^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5 [^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale) [Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1
Let me rewrite that.
Suppose that by default working in the browser without virtio drivers, then that feels like 50% speed of working on a normal pc.
Using RDP, feels like 95%-99% of a normal pc.
Using the Virtio drivers, then the browser access feels like 75-85% of a normal pc.
RDP is a really fast protocol.
Vmware is having the same situation. Slower in the browser, fast in RDP.
The only positiv in that case is HyperV and their Browser. Which is pretty fast. But I guess they use the RDP protocol.
Friendly Greetings,
RobB
Main NAS: Model:TS-253D - 20200725 Boot:- Raid 1: 2x 1 TB m.2 WD Red Disks - 6TB WD Red, 350GB WD blue 2.5"
BACKUP NAS (On 2 hours a day due to Electricity costs) Model:TvS-673 40GB (2*32+2*4) - 20170215 Boot:-Raid 1: 2x Crucial M.2 275GB 2x Disks Raid 1:-3.5" 2x Toshiba 10 TB UPS: Back-UPS Pro BR900G-GR
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