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Re: Moogle's TS-877 review

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:18 am
by foguet
Trexx wrote:
foguet wrote:Hello!
Has anyone changed the TS-877 CPU from Ryzen 5 1600 to Ryzen 7 1700?
Any suggestions? Can there be power failure problems?
I'm thinking about changing it and I'd like your opinion :)


Bigger issue to consider, changing CPU will almost 100% guaranteed void your QNAP warranty.

Also if you look at the passmarks #'s, you will only get about a 10-15% performance improvement since the 6-cores in the R5-1600 are clocked higher than the 8-cores in the R7-1700.

So for single threaded applications, you actually would be taking a performance hit due to lower clock speed. In multi-threaded applications, you will gain in total performance due to the extra cores but on a per core basis you will be slightly lower.

Thanks for your advice. I'm gonna listen to you. I am going to invest this money in more RAM memory up to 64Gb (I will use the QNAP for automated processes with python language, plex, several VM,...)

I've seen in your signature your RAM model, but at least in Spain, it's out of print.

At the moment I have 2 units of this model "Crucial 16GB (1x16GB) 2400 Mhz (PC4-19200) CL17 DR", but I don't know if to return it and buy more speed. Any recommendations? Any incompatibilities? thanks a loot!!! :roll:

Re: Moogle's TS-877 review

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:23 am
by Trexx
foguet wrote:Thanks for your advice. I'm gonna listen to you. I am going to invest this money in more RAM memory up to 64Gb (I will use the QNAP for automated processes with python language, plex, several VM,...)

I've seen in your signature your RAM model, but at least in Spain, it's out of print.

At the moment I have 2 units of this model "Crucial 16GB (1x16GB) 2400 Mhz (PC4-19200) CL17 DR", but I don't know if to return it and buy more speed. Any recommendations? Any incompatibilities? thanks a loot!!! :roll:


I would probably recommend opening a new thread for this discussions. As for more speed, you would be better off getting something faster than CL17 @ 2400 since at full 64GB, you won't be at 2400 Mhz anyway (more dimms = lower clock). I just went with the models since they were on a good sale at the time and were Ryzen certified.

Re: Moogle's TS-877 review

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:05 pm
by Weather_Underground
what is the point of having 4 nas,ses?

Re: Moogle's TS-877 review

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:45 pm
by Toxic17
Weather_Underground wrote:what is the point of having 4 nas,ses?


Because he can - perhaps? ;)

Re: Moogle's TS-877 review

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:29 pm
by Weather_Underground
Toxic17 wrote:
Weather_Underground wrote:what is the point of having 4 nas,ses?


Because he can - perhaps? ;)


Me too. I can do a lot.
But not using multiple nas'ses . Pointless, from my point of view.

Re: Moogle's TS-877 review

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:49 am
by P3R
Weather_Underground wrote:Pointless, from my point of view.
I can see many reasons for multiple NASes:
  • Main and backup storages
  • Multiple sites
  • Silent NAS by the TV and a noisy large capacity storage hidden away
  • Test environment for software before introducing it in production
  • External service NAS for security reasons isolated on a DMZ
  • Surveillance server for security reasons isolated on a mangement network
My reasons are the first two.

Re: Moogle's TS-877 review

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:20 am
by schumaku
  • Serving multiple legal entities
  • Data Segregation
  • Application Segregation
and many more.

Re: Moogle's TS-877 review

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:02 am
by Weather_Underground
schumaku wrote:
  • Serving multiple legal entities
  • Data Segregation
  • Application Segregation
and many more.

allright. i have get 2 tvs-1282t 32Gb now fully equiped with wd-red draivs.
now i have 3 nas devices.

thanks for the advice.

Re: Moogle's TS-877 review

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:13 am
by caffecoffee
i just bought a 877. Thanks for the consolidation of review + combination of everybody.
Really handy.

Re: Moogle's TS-877 review

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:23 am
by Moogle Stiltzkin
caffecoffee wrote:i just bought a 877. Thanks for the consolidation of review + combination of everybody.
Really handy.


kewl gratz :) glad it helped.

maybe you can do your own review and we can compare notes :wink:


there have been more reviews since then by many others


From Youtube.com



From Youtube.com




but the most indepth testing review i've seen so far was by nascompares *the 2nd link robbie did transcoding tests for 1080p and 4k
https://nascompares.com/review/qnap-ts-877-nas/
https://nascompares.com/plex/qnap-ts-67 ... -4k-1080p/

Re: Moogle's TS-877 review

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:26 pm
by aarbee
@Moogle,
I did read this text at the beginning of your thread:

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Alternatively you can setup to access the qnap VM via network rather than HDMI


What do you mean exactly? RDP?

Re: Moogle's TS-877 review

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:30 pm
by Moogle Stiltzkin
aarbee wrote:@Moogle,
I did read this text at the beginning of your thread:

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Alternatively you can setup to access the qnap VM via network rather than HDMI


What do you mean exactly? RDP?


oo well to access vm, you can do so via

1. plug monitor to hdmi port (which is the installed nvidia graphics card)

or

2. connect remotely via web browser to the VM. basically, i login to the QTS desktop (in my case i was on local lan), then browse to virtual station. Then there is a pop up link for that VM, which opens a browser tab. That was what i meant :) You can then select the bandwidth speed for video quality for when accessing the VM that way. For me when comparing to hdmi method, it wasn't as smooth. so if i was seriously using VM, i would rather opt for HDMI method since it works better in usability.
https://www.qnap.com/en-us/how-to/faq/a ... -my-device

Re: Moogle's TS-877 review

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:04 pm
by aarbee
I still have the 673. And do some sort of Virtio/passthrough on that internal videocard.
And I mostly connect to the VM's by RDP (Windows pc/server). And that is faster then the webbrowser.
Though with the help I got lately, I saw that the VirtIO did speed up the webinterface as well.

Thank you.

Re: Moogle's TS-877 review

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:09 pm
by Moogle Stiltzkin
aarbee wrote:I still have the 673. And do some sort of Virtio/passthrough on that internal videocard.
And I mostly connect to the VM's by RDP (Windows pc/server). And that is faster then the webbrowser.
Though with the help I got lately, I saw that the VirtIO did speed up the webinterface as well.

Thank you.


o there is a difference? :'

I will keep that in mind for next time ty. are you using a specific software for rdp? sorry not familiar with that method.

Re: Moogle's TS-877 review

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:01 pm
by aarbee
Let me rewrite that.
Suppose that by default working in the browser without virtio drivers, then that feels like 50% speed of working on a normal pc.
Using RDP, feels like 95%-99% of a normal pc.
Using the Virtio drivers, then the browser access feels like 75-85% of a normal pc.

RDP is a really fast protocol.

Vmware is having the same situation. Slower in the browser, fast in RDP.
The only positiv in that case is HyperV and their Browser. Which is pretty fast. But I guess they use the RDP protocol.