Qumagie review Part1
Qumagie, been checking it out how it works.
I'm still indexing/creating thumbnails then i got to re-run the AI to tag pictures... so it will be a while before actual.
So for now i'm just browsing through the features to see what it is i can do with it if only a glimpse of how it works.
this is what you can call the main page of qumagie. you browse your total image collection here. the default is timeline mode (which i'm fine with). Or you can toggle the view to show based on a different criteria like creation date etc, however you like.
or you can browse by directory level mode as well
and these are the BASIC search options to find a specific image. But if that's not enough, there is also qsirch you could try
This section is where all the tags generated by AI go to. by default they are unamed, so you would need to name them. You also SHOULD browse within them to check whether there is a false grouping (it can most definitely happen). In those instances you would then remove them from there (don't worry it won't delete the actual picture. just remove the grouping). And hopefully future ai scans won't make the same mistake.
it's very easy to add pictures to existing tags. just type a partial, then click from the list and you're done.
then there is the smart album area. you have the defaults like people, objects. and there is the custom smart albums, where you can compile a bunch of tagged items to show up under the same album. These ought to be virtual albums, so they are not physically stored there, just merely displayed same album within this qumagie app for your convenience. so e.g. for isekai quartet album, i'd put together the overlord, rezero, youjo senki characters together under the same smart album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxJhTAxXzLI
there is also an upload image feature, similar to imgur picture hosting drag and drop approach. Normally i would just browse using windows explorer and upload that way. Or you can use this UI and browse where you want the images put, then drag drop with the configured rules e.g. overwrite/skip etc... (i have an app on windows that does this though called teracopy)
oo someone asked why is it all just thumbnails.
KathrynEJ wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 1:04 pm
Perhaps I am missing something but from what I can see so far QuMagie looks just like another way to view your photos in a collage type display, rather than a program to sort or organise them, which a lot of us were really hoping for. No way to sort by tag that I can find.
Also, no way to view as anything but a thumbnail, so you can't do a bulk re-sort of image files etc.
Happy to be corrected if anyone else can see more to it? I am a bit disappointed if this is all it is.
well your suppose to browse the images in whatever mode, then click or double click to open to view the image in full
*update
Okay i see what the user meant. when i double click view, it is still in a thumbnail form although more bigger in size. it's not the original image quality. tbh i would expect it to show the full image, maybe another click for a zoom into the full image mode, but it doesn't do that
why?
specifcally, this is how it looks using qumagie. this is not the original image, it's merely a good big thumbnail.
this is the same picture but viewed in photostation. notice how you can scale it from the big thumbnail to the full image? and there's also an option to download the original image as well. None of those 2 things are available in the qumagie image finder, which is very surprising
will have to put in a feature request to put this basic thing in qumagie.
thumbnails are fine for quick browsing, but ultimately when inspecting images in closer detail, you would expect to be able to view and download the original image in it's full quality version (preferably with the expand to full view toggle included)
I'll also add, there does not seem to be a way to open the image to it's original location in file explorer or filestation. Also that location pathing you cannot even select it with mouse to copy paste elsewhere either.
*update
Okay just to be more specific.
There IS a download for images.
but NOT when viewing the actual images in the detailed view. The download is only available via marking images in the checkboxes then clicking on the option to the top right for download. Although there is no download in single picture view mode, at least there is that.
But that still does not explain why detail single picture view mode does not allow for original picture zoom/view mode. That at least still needs a fix i believe
anyway that is basically what qumagie is and does. i'll now have to wait for complete indexing etc before i can tinker around and see how well it handles
*update
One thing i noticed in qumagie for the tagged characters, it's different from the previous facial tagging. previously when you viewed an image in the tagged section, you would have a box on the face to point out who the picture is tagging it for. but it's missing. so i got a picture that is clearly grouped incorrectly, but there are 3 characters in the image, and i have no idea which character this image is being tagged for because of the missing box to point it out
i'll need to create a ticket for this issue. now i'm afraid they may have dumbed it out down too much and remove some useful features from before.
it's interesting how it tagged objects. some were hit and miss, and some were surprisingly accurate. as long as it has a more than 70% + accuracy for all the pics stored, then that saves me time manually having to tag it all by myself. I still have to check it's not incorrectly tagging though.
Summary
I like the new Qumagie. But.... i don't think it is fully working as it doesn't seem to tag as many facial recognition under "people" compared to the previous facial tagging app in 4.3.6
Yes there are objects where "cartoons" are listed. But i ALSO wanted the characters to be recognized as people as well (it already does but the detection rate for this grouping is far lower than previous results).
Also... i have anime... not cartoons
so i hope they can create cartoons and anime separately, or at least a toggle to change the name to anime.
and according to the youtube explanation, it was leaked that photostation will be phased out by this year end with a replacement. And that Qumagie and photostation are separate apps. Qumagie is more specific to doing AI assisted tagging for images and grouping them accordingly.
*updated
there is a new video comparing qumagie against synology's moments. one thing of note was how indexed pics for it MUST be in the drive folder....
whereas the qumagie u can select the image locations via multimedia console wherever location they are stored in(it doesn't force you into putting all your pics under a specific root folder/share). The qnap approach is way more user friendly and flexible in that regard.
However qumagie loses in regards to single picture view mode, because the moments has more options like "download". Other than that, i'm not sure if moments can do a view of the original pic or whether it's a enlarged thumbnail view same like Qumagie.
Qumagie seemed to have a better accuracy rate for tagging than moments. also the tagging in qumagie can be much more refined, like instead of just flower, it can be much more specific than that e.g. hydrangea.
Qumagie has folder browsing directory mode, which moments lacks.
One part i didn't agree with Rob was how he didn't think multimedia console was useful. I see it differently. All the multimedia management is in a single unified app window.... so you don't have to chase all over qts to configure this related stuff. it's all there in this one setting management page. and they all have sub pages for the different multimedia stuff to configure. I tried it out myself and it's easy to use and figure out. So i don't know why rob is complaining about it. I'd be less impress if it had less management options than now for handling the multimedia on the QNAP. heck there is even a very useful 1 click button toggle to disable multimedia services. the synology multimedia management page does indeed look much more lean and simplified, but i don't necessarily think it's better, because early on i already pointed out how they force you to use their specific drive folder for images, whereas qnap lets you browse to the location your stored images. maybe they have this problem because they over simplified it to not have enough configurable options (which the QNAP provides).
So i see the changes brought by multimedia console as an improvement (unified settings for multimedia + lots of configurable and easy to understand options to tweak your settings). The only thing i doubt is whether this app is stable just yet (specifically in regards to indexing, and also qumagie detection/tagging). I'm still testing this out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XtjlpjBZWI
Qumagie review part 2
*revised some comments after having explored further and a 2nd look at what i tested before. so the 2nd part should have a more updated review for any part it covers.
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