Trexx wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:58 pm
i realize, my bad
sorry dun mind me, just answer what you are comfortable with and at your own pace.
i'll try highlight them next time to make it easier *done
QTS: Install NV Kernel Driver & NV GPU drivers, set GPU HW to VM mode (may require reboot)
VM: Set GPU Passthrough on VM Settings, don't mess with other GPU driver setting (QXL/etc.) . Using connected monitor & keyboard to QNAP (not RDP connection), download/install Nvidia drivers from NVidia Website into Win10 VM and install them.
o right i forgot. yeah i'm suppose to switch the setting to the VM mode, doh.
GTunney wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:38 pm
Have you replace the RAM with something that has actually been tested as compatible?
When I upgraded to an 8GB kit it ticked all the boxes in terms of spec but the NAS didn't like it for some reason.
yeah it should be, trex uses the same but 32gb.
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i'll do that next. memtest86 right?
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It's possible it's ram (although i'm unsure), because since i reinitialized, this is the first time it random booted afaik, and this occured a couple of hours after i installed the new ram
i think the ram seller may have just sold me the single stick ddr4 so i end up buying both from him (very sneaky becauz they don't explicitly say its the dual kit model by leaving out the product serial, instead they put a pic of the 2 sticks side by side). so no i dont think this is the 8x2 ddr4 kit, but rather 1x8 + 1x8 single ddr4 sticks. but they are the same kingston hyperx fury, same mem, so technically they should still work fine even in dual channel. or at least when i checked online people said it would be fine
the new ram i got installed is either one of these, not sure (but both are on the Ryzen compatibility list)
Kingston Technology HyperX Fury Black 8GB 2666MHz DDR4 CL16 DIMM 1Rx8 (HX426C16FB2/8)
HyperX Kingston Technology Fury Black 16GB 2666MHz DDR4 CL16 DIMM Kit of 2 1Rx8 (HX426C16FB2K2/16)
https://media.kingston.com/pdfs/hx-prod ... ity-us.pdf
AMD Ryzen and HyperX Compatibility
HyperX is a division of Kingston.
The HyperX memory team has done extensive compatibility testing on AMD Ryzen™ platforms. Based on our lab testing and work with the motherboard vendors, we have compiled a list of parts we recommend to help you get the most out of your AMD Ryzen™ system.
We expect these modules and kits to work at the factory tested and programmed speeds, timings, and voltage, however some system boards may limit memory speed and/or timings based on the board design and BIOS. Other factors, such as power supply and cooling will affect potential memory performance.
Most AMD Ryzen™ and Ryzen™ Threadripper™ processors are limited to a maximum safe overclock speed of 3200MHz, and are limited by the type of DIMM needed to achieve this speed (Sin-gle Rank “1R” versus Dual Rank “2R”) and the number of DIMMs installed per memory channel. In some cases, 2nd generation Ryzen™ proces-sors and motherboards will slightly improve overclock performance over 1st generation. Continual refinements to BIOS and motherboard
design have enabled better memory support and faster speeds on some models. Please check with your motherboard or system manu-facturer for the latest supported memory speeds (QVL).Note: Installing the latest BIOS may resolve initial compatibility or performance issues. FURY Plug N Play DIMMs and Impact “PnP” SO-DIMMs are designed to operate at factory overclocked speeds using standard DDR4 1.2V out of the box. On most AMD Ryzen™ systems the memory will default to the industry standard (JEDEC) speed and timings. In order to achieve the factory overclock speed, please select memory Profile 1 from within the BIOS to force the factory overclock settings. A second, less demanding memory Profile 2 is also available if Profile 1 is not stable.
If you have any configuration questions please contact our support team at hyperxgaming.com/support.
https://www.eteknix.com/hyperx-expands- ... n-support/
Article posted 2 yrs ago
The HyperX Fury DDR4 Memory is Kingston’s mainstream gaming DDR4 series meant to be an easy-to-use, widely compatible memory solution for various platforms. Initially available for Intel 100-series, 200-series and X99 chipset series mainboards, HyperX has now expanded the range, capacity and support to include the newly released AMD Ryzen platform.
The expanded HyperX Fury DDR4 memory range includes speeds at 2133, 2400 as well as 2666MHz with latencies from CL16 to CL18 and 8GB to 64GB capacities. Each HyperX Fury DDR4 module measures 133.35mm x 34.04mm which makes it slightly taller than bare PCB but its heatspreader is not unusually tall that it prevents most air cooler installations. It is also available in various color heatspreader options (black, white, red, and blue) so that users can mix-and-match and color-coordinate with their system colors.
Support for the AMD Ryzen platform currently includes the following part numbers. These should work out of the box with most Ryzen motherboards as of March 30, although some might require some BIOS/UEFI update to be fully compatible:
FURY DDR4 2666MHz Timing Change Black Heat Spreader (as of March 20, update UEFI to latest)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6 ... ung_b_die/
You see, most of the RAM you see on the planet, regardless of the brand (be it HyperX/Corsair/G.Skill/whatever) comes from one of the few manufacturers - Hynix, Samsung, Micron and Toshiba.
Most commonly when it comes to higher specced RAM you will see Hynix or Samsung being used.
Now, it seems that Samsung B dies (specific type produced by Samsung) seems to work really great on Ryzen (and in general has superior specs to competition so you can see results like 3200 MHz bundled with low CL) as they boot up at their rated speeds without any issues. You will find it being used in G.Skil TridentZ mostly, some G.Skill Ripjaws and certain versions of Corsair sticks apparently come with it too.
At the same time Ryzen seems to like Hynix memory less. It's a bit harder to get it to work (although not impossible as it was 2 months ago when people were stuck with 2133/2400 MHz despite using 3200 MHz RAM) - you can for instance expect XMP profiles to not load and will need to play with timings manually to get to your rated (or near rated) speed.
https://wccftech.com/samsung-b-die-memo ... ung-a-die/
Samsung B-Die Memory Production Ceased, Replaced by A-Die
B-Die memory types have been the preferred memory for overclocked and alike, offering lower timings and high clocks at the same voltage as other competing types.
Ryzen CPUs favor higher clocked memory, providing a fair performance gain over DDR4-2133 and DDR4-2400. This is due to AMD’s Infinity Fabric design, with the Infinity Fabric internally running at the same clocks as the DDR4 modules installed. B-Die memory has also proven to have better compatibility with 1st-Generation Ryzen CPUs, creating demand from Ryzen CPU users.
Intel CPUs benefit less from increased memory speed, only providing an increase in performance by a small percentage in workstation tasks.
As far as overclocking goes, at this time, A-Die struggles to meet the same performance level that B-Die memory had proven to reach. It is possible Samsung could alter A-Die to mimic B-Die’s performance, whether it’s through binning or a design change, but it is possible that the market could see an increased price for higher clocked, high-performance memories.
not sure what kingston uses. but it at least says it's compatible for the Ryzen
yes i should be running the latest Agesa in the ts-877 bios which added better memory compatibility. unless there was a new bios update i was unaware of? which i don't think is the case.
https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads ... n.3467258/
Kingston DRAM Manufacturing Tour (dated 2012)
QVL is qualified Vendor list, not qualified ram list. There's only a few actual ram OEMs, like Samsung, SkHynix, Micron etc. They manufacture all the ram for every vendor. The serial number on the ram covers a bunch of different scenarios. F4-3000C16D-16GISB for instance is G-skill Aegis, F4 (ddr4)-3000MHz-Cas16-D(?) 16Gb kit-I(?) S(single rank) - B(black). You can have the exact same ram F4-3000C16D-16GISR except its red. Just in g-skill Trident-Z 3200 alone is 5 different models, 8 colors, +rgb, in 4 different kits, 3 different Cas. If you add it all up, there's over 200 different individual serial numbers just in the Trident-Z alone. Then add the value, Aegis, sniper, RipJaws IV, RipJaws V etc and g-skill alone has thousands of different serial numbers. Multiply that by all the different speeds and sizes. Then add Adata, Patriot, Crucial, Kingston and all the rest and you'd have a little old man spending thousands of man hours to make a QVL thousands of pages long, testing the same 10 ram over and over, since they all come from the same 10 places, using the same 10 OEM IC chips.
Kinda absolutely pointless. So mobo vendors will grab a few sticks from a few different kits in each size, maybe a few donated prototypes and test them. That's all.
In almost 40 years of dropping ram into pc's, I don't think I've ever once had a single stick that was actually exactly QVL. Same speed, same vendor, but it was red, or blue or Cas10 and the QVL had black Cas 9.
Don't rely on QVL as gospel, you'll be disappointed. It's just a tool really that says that a variety of different sticks and kits will work as promised. If your exact number isn't on it, it really is, you just have a different color. Different speed. Different kit. But it's all the same ram, just under a different named heatsink from a different vendor.
DOCP is an AMD thing, XMP is Intel eXtreme Memory Profile. It amounts to the same thing.
confirmed from the label on the physical stick that mine is this
viewtopic.php?f=182&t=126233&p=570315&h ... ry#p570325
care to elaborate? i only managed to snag 2x single sticks of 8gb of the same ram model, and then install it as a dual channel in the NAS. I did not get the DUAL KIT, seller product description was vague and misleading. But i thought this did not matter as much as long as they are the same exact ram model (specifically HX426C16FB2/8). are you saying it won't work?
i could try changing the profile to see if that changes anything, but i don't know how to do that in bios or even if that would help or not
Spider99 wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:24 pm
if their not on the compatibility list with qnap (which is only updated irregularly) then you have to be careful you get exactly the same spec as the existing ram you have in your nas - voltage appears to be very important
Also make sure they are a matched pair or quad - as people have had trouble with "mixed" dimms even though they are the same version but not matched
personally i would go with the higher quality ram as a starting point
Search the forums you might find someone who has done it before
Symptoms of non compatibility are - does not boot, wont turn on, crashing, odd system performance etc
Try and get your ram on a "try first" option if you can find a friendly supplier
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3180511 ... mance.html
https://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/ ... d-it-2017/
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD ... ide/5.html
In order to achieve the factory overclock speed, please select memory Profile 1 from within the BIOS to force the factory overclock settings. A second, less demanding memory Profile 2 is also available if Profile 1 is not stable.
i can try beg
kingston to see if they would consider swapping these sticks for the dual kit. when i did the same with Corsair last time, no questions asked they just replaced. shipping was fast too. In fact, i got a free upgrade
(https://forum.lowyat.net/style_emoticon ... lt/wub.gif
). Not sure about Kingston
. My only experience with them in the past was a desktop ram that failed
Customer returns the defective product to Kingston before the replacement part is shipped. Subject to availability, the replacement part will be shipped to the customer on the following business day of the product being received.
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