NAS approaching EOL date - possibility’s for prolonging life?

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NAS approaching EOL date - possibility’s for prolonging life?

Post by Leijendeckers » Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:57 pm

My NAS ts-869 pro is nearing its end of life date.

It would be a waste to just throw it in the bin. What are the possibilities to keep using the system.

- small network standalone without internet connection as backup storage for pc’s comes to mind.

What I am wondering is:
- are there motherboards which can fit the case and turn it in a different machine?
- are there qnap motherboards which might fit the case to make it a modern qnap system?

It could be for any EOL qnap system. It saves waste and might be cheaper to repurpose an old system.

What are your thoughts?
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Re: NAS approaching EOL date - possibility’s for prolonging life?

Post by dolbyman » Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:18 pm

just leave it ...dont expose it to the web (no qnap nas should be) and it should work just fine

no need or way to mod this into a modern device (if you could..probably more expensive than just buying a new device)

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Re: NAS approaching EOL date - possibility’s for prolonging life?

Post by jaysona » Wed Aug 05, 2020 10:21 pm

Leijendeckers wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:57 pm
....
-What I am wondering is:
- are there motherboards which can fit the case and turn it in a different machine?
- are there qnap motherboards which might fit the case to make it a modern qnap system?
....
No. The mobos are unit specific, therefore component layout is unit specific.

EOL does not mean dead, the unit will probably function for years to come. Just keep using the device until it is no longer functional.

Many of my NAS units are EOL and beyond and they function just perfectly. I recently picked up a TS-809 Pro on-line for $100 to use as a back-up storage array. It functions just fine, all drive bays work, etc. I just need to reflash the DOM and insert new disks and it'll be good to go in its new repurposed life. ;)

There really are few reason to purchase a brand-new NAS, especially if the NAS is powered by an anemic CPU, just buy used, the x69 Pro series can functional as little more than a proper storage server.
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Re: NAS approaching EOL date - possibility’s for prolonging life?

Post by Bribeired » Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:24 am

Is it also ok to use them over the internet?

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Re: NAS approaching EOL date - possibility’s for prolonging life?

Post by dolbyman » Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:32 am

please ask in more detail, unclear what the question is here

unless you missed my statement about exposing QNAP NAS to the web

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Re: NAS approaching EOL date - possibility’s for prolonging life?

Post by Bribeired » Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:38 am

Got it thanks.

Do you use your nas locally like within the network?

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Re: NAS approaching EOL date - possibility’s for prolonging life?

Post by jaysona » Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:56 am

I use my NAS's both internally on my home LAN, and I have a couple of NAS units that have some services accessible from the Internet as well, such as;
- plex
- email server (xmail - smtp/smtps)
- email retrieval (dovecot over imaps)
- webmail (roundcube over https)
- xmpp/omemo
- basic website hosting
- torrent (QTransmission)

All NAS management, phpMyAdmin, nextcloud, etc are not available on the Internet and require the use of VPN to access those services.
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Re: NAS approaching EOL date - possibility’s for prolonging life?

Post by Bribeired » Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:37 am

That is very good, but too technical for me.

I just use nas mainly for storage of personal photos that I share over the internet for friends and families, but with EOL will it be comprimised?

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Re: NAS approaching EOL date - possibility’s for prolonging life?

Post by dolbyman » Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:01 am

Don't even share a non EOL QNAP NAS over the internet

Use dropbox,onedrive,etc.

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Re: NAS approaching EOL date - possibility’s for prolonging life?

Post by jaysona » Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:43 am

Bribeired wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:37 am
That is very good, but too technical for me.

I just use nas mainly for storage of personal photos that I share over the internet for friends and families, but with EOL will it be comprimised?
If you are using the QNAP provide apps (such as Photostation, Filestation, etc), it won't matter if the NAS is EOL or not. The QNAP QTS applications are not secure and your NAS will eventually be compromised, EOL or otherwise.
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Re: NAS approaching EOL date - possibility’s for prolonging life?

Post by umpa » Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:30 pm

jaysona wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:43 am
Bribeired wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:37 am
That is very good, but too technical for me.

I just use nas mainly for storage of personal photos that I share over the internet for friends and families, but with EOL will it be comprimised?
If you are using the QNAP provide apps (such as Photostation, Filestation, etc), it won't matter if the NAS is EOL or not. The QNAP QTS applications are not secure and your NAS will eventually be compromised, EOL or otherwise.
For this to happen the NAS would need to have the main port usually 8080 open to the WAN ?
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Re: NAS approaching EOL date - possibility’s for prolonging life?

Post by Moogle Stiltzkin » Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:00 am

Leijendeckers wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:57 pm
My NAS ts-869 pro is nearing its end of life date.

It would be a waste to just throw it in the bin. What are the possibilities to keep using the system.

- small network standalone without internet connection as backup storage for pc’s comes to mind.

What I am wondering is:
- are there motherboards which can fit the case and turn it in a different machine?
- are there qnap motherboards which might fit the case to make it a modern qnap system?

It could be for any EOL qnap system. It saves waste and might be cheaper to repurpose an old system.

What are your thoughts?
search the forum for unraid

the idea is install unraid on a usb flash drive, go to the qnap bios, unselect boot from dom, and select boot from the usb flash drive. so when you power on the qnap it uses unraid instead which should be regularly maintained based on your license.

not sure if it will work on your model, i assume it would.

but based on hardware specs, i'd just replace your model with a newer qnap model tbh :'
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