Plex, Pi Hole, Surveillance, VPN, Deep Learning, is there anything QNAP can't do?

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Plex, Pi Hole, Surveillance, VPN, Deep Learning, is there anything QNAP can't do?

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[Main Server] QNAP TS-877 (QTS) w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE
[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
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I'm inclined to answer that question, but I think we already know it. ;)

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:lol: security
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See? I was right. :DD

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QNAP first needs to pull their head out of their backside
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@34:52 he runs pihole on the qnap. is that recommended?

I'm already using pfblocker running on my pfsense router so pihole is not needed for me. but still interesting to know about.


fyi i copy pasted the title. if i were in marketing, i would steer clear of questions you don't want answered :' just a thought. not sure why they decided on that phrasing :shock:
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[Main Server] QNAP TS-877 (QTS) w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE
[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1

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syncthing wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:08 am :lol: security
+100
OneCD wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:09 am See? I was right. :DD
Too bad there are no Vegas bets about QNAP and security, QNAP not getting security right is probably the surest bet there is currently.
elvisimprsntr wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:12 am QNAP first needs to pull their head out of their backside
Don't hold your breath on this one. QTS is just a cluster-eff of an operating environment. QTS needs a complete architecture overhaul and re-write. Sadly, QNAP seems to be going the obfuscation direction by using binary blobs. That is effectively security by obscurity. Security researchers are not going to take the time to decompile and reverse engineer the blobs to look for vulnerabilities (as is currently done with PHP code) but I suspect malware producers will actively pursue the binary blob route because they know there will be fewer eyes on the blobs, and once an exploit is found, the nature of the exploit will be far more difficult to determine - which can result in a far more effective exploit campaign.
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H/W: QNAP TVS-871 (i7-4790. 16GB) (Plex server) / TVS-EC1080 (32Gig ECC) - VM host & seedbox
H/W: Asustor AS6604T (8GB) / Asustor AS7010T (16GB) (media storage)
H/W: TS-219 Pro / TS-509 Pro
O/S: Slackware 14.2 / MS Windows 7-64 (x5)
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Router4: Asus RT-AC66U - FreshTomato v2021.10.15

Misc: Popcorn Hour A-110/WN-100, Pinnacle Show Center 250HD, Roku SoundBridge Radio (all retired)
Ditched QNAP units: TS-269 Pro / TS-253 Pro (8GB) / TS-509 Pro / TS-569 Pro / TS-853 Pro (8GB)
TS-670 Pro x2 (i7-3770s 16GB) / TS-870 Pro (i7-3770 16GB) / TVS-871 (i7-4790s 16GB)
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My next NAS won’t be a QNAP. Most likely a TrueNAS based unit. If it could easily repurpose my existing QNAP by installing FreeNAS, I would.
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elvisimprsntr wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:34 am My next NAS won’t be a QNAP. Most likely a TrueNAS based unit. If it could easily repurpose my existing QNAP by installing FreeNAS, I would.
I think I am done with QNAP as well.

I purchased an Asustor a couple of days ago, and have been playing around with it for the past 24 hours or so. There are some minor things that are kinda meh! but overall I like what I see so far.

I just have zero faith in QNAP coding practices, and even though I am a coder and a hacker (software & hardware), I still find I spend much more time than I should be, putzing around with innards of QTS. I can't even begin to imagine how frustrated and overwhelmed the less technical average user must feel.
RAID is not a Back-up!

H/W: QNAP TVS-871 (i7-4790. 16GB) (Plex server) / TVS-EC1080 (32Gig ECC) - VM host & seedbox
H/W: Asustor AS6604T (8GB) / Asustor AS7010T (16GB) (media storage)
H/W: TS-219 Pro / TS-509 Pro
O/S: Slackware 14.2 / MS Windows 7-64 (x5)
Router1: Asus RT-AC86U - Asuswrt-Merlin - 386.7_2
Router2: Asus RT-AC68U - Asuswrt-Merlin - 386.7_2
Router3: Linksys WRT1900AC - DD-WRT v3.0-r46816 std
Router4: Asus RT-AC66U - FreshTomato v2021.10.15

Misc: Popcorn Hour A-110/WN-100, Pinnacle Show Center 250HD, Roku SoundBridge Radio (all retired)
Ditched QNAP units: TS-269 Pro / TS-253 Pro (8GB) / TS-509 Pro / TS-569 Pro / TS-853 Pro (8GB)
TS-670 Pro x2 (i7-3770s 16GB) / TS-870 Pro (i7-3770 16GB) / TVS-871 (i7-4790s 16GB)
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Post by dolbyman »

Well at least QNAP is more "upfront" with security news these days.
The last couple of ransomware attacks were met with complete silence from QNAP. You would think they would swarm the forums/reddit etc for information and to put "minds at ease" .. nope .. crickets
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Honestly, I don't think anyone at QNAP even has a real clue as to what is happening, this appears to be a typical "deer caught in the headlights" reaction.

QNAPS coding practices over the past couple of years has been been circling the drain, and now we have confirmation that it has gone down the sewer! Hard coded credentials - in 2021???? :shock: :shock:

That shizz went out of styre back in 2001. :roll: :roll: :roll:
RAID is not a Back-up!

H/W: QNAP TVS-871 (i7-4790. 16GB) (Plex server) / TVS-EC1080 (32Gig ECC) - VM host & seedbox
H/W: Asustor AS6604T (8GB) / Asustor AS7010T (16GB) (media storage)
H/W: TS-219 Pro / TS-509 Pro
O/S: Slackware 14.2 / MS Windows 7-64 (x5)
Router1: Asus RT-AC86U - Asuswrt-Merlin - 386.7_2
Router2: Asus RT-AC68U - Asuswrt-Merlin - 386.7_2
Router3: Linksys WRT1900AC - DD-WRT v3.0-r46816 std
Router4: Asus RT-AC66U - FreshTomato v2021.10.15

Misc: Popcorn Hour A-110/WN-100, Pinnacle Show Center 250HD, Roku SoundBridge Radio (all retired)
Ditched QNAP units: TS-269 Pro / TS-253 Pro (8GB) / TS-509 Pro / TS-569 Pro / TS-853 Pro (8GB)
TS-670 Pro x2 (i7-3770s 16GB) / TS-870 Pro (i7-3770 16GB) / TVS-871 (i7-4790s 16GB)
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