Needs some light shed on transfer speeds.
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Needs some light shed on transfer speeds.
Hi all,
I have a QNAP TS-453A with 4x 8TB Seagate drives.
Firstly, when I move files around within the NAS itself for organisating I find the speed a bit slow at 10MB/s.
Second, I have 2 PC's both using a 960 Evo and the transfer speeds from the NAS a vastly different. 1 PC gets over 100MB/s but the other a measly 10MB/s. The faster PC is on a newer chipset (z270) while the other is a z97 though but still should be fast.
PC's and NAS are connected to a switch connected to a powerline adapter to the moden/router.
I have a QNAP TS-453A with 4x 8TB Seagate drives.
Firstly, when I move files around within the NAS itself for organisating I find the speed a bit slow at 10MB/s.
Second, I have 2 PC's both using a 960 Evo and the transfer speeds from the NAS a vastly different. 1 PC gets over 100MB/s but the other a measly 10MB/s. The faster PC is on a newer chipset (z270) while the other is a z97 though but still should be fast.
PC's and NAS are connected to a switch connected to a powerline adapter to the moden/router.
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Re: Needs some light shed on transfer speeds.
best to ask helpdesk
https://helpdesk.qnap.com/
hm... did you try changing the ethernet cables? to troubleshoot if that is the issue?
this is your network?
QNAP TS453a >> router >> powerline adapter1 >>>>> powerline adapter2>>> switch >>>>> PC1 & PC2
i also did some checking online, could it simply be a driver issue on your problematic pc?
try using Iobit driver booster, it will scan for updated drivers. alternatively there is DUMO
http://www.kcsoftwares.com/?dumo
you can then update your drivers using that, reboot and see if anything changes?
how exactly are you doing the transfers? file station? windows explorer samba? or what
https://helpdesk.qnap.com/
hm... did you try changing the ethernet cables? to troubleshoot if that is the issue?
this is your network?
QNAP TS453a >> router >> powerline adapter1 >>>>> powerline adapter2>>> switch >>>>> PC1 & PC2
i also did some checking online, could it simply be a driver issue on your problematic pc?
try using Iobit driver booster, it will scan for updated drivers. alternatively there is DUMO
http://www.kcsoftwares.com/?dumo
you can then update your drivers using that, reboot and see if anything changes?
how exactly are you doing the transfers? file station? windows explorer samba? or what
NAS
[Main Server] QNAP TS-877 (QTS) w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE
[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1
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[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1
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Re: Needs some light shed on transfer speeds.
I have not, will give it a try.Moogle Stiltzkin wrote:best to ask helpdesk
https://helpdesk.qnap.com/
hm... did you try changing the ethernet cables? to troubleshoot if that is the issue?
this is your network?
QNAP TS453a >> router >> powerline adapter1 >>>>> powerline adapter2>>> switch >>>>> PC1 & PC2
i also did some checking online, could it simply be a driver issue on your problematic pc?
try using Iobit driver booster, it will scan for updated drivers. alternatively there is DUMO
http://www.kcsoftwares.com/?dumo
you can then update your drivers using that, reboot and see if anything changes?
how exactly are you doing the transfers? file station? windows explorer samba? or what
Network is
Router >> powerline adapter1 >> powerline adapter2 >> switch >> PC1, PC2, TS453A
Giving lobit driver boost right now, seems like I've got quite a few out of date drivers.
I'm just using windows file explorer to move files around.
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Re: Needs some light shed on transfer speeds.
also if your pc has more than 2 ethernet ports, try changing the cable to use the other, see if anything changes?
If you're moving stuff internally within the NAS (not from pc to the NAS), then like onecd said, using filestation you can do it internally for best speed.
but that said, i also move stuff via file explorer on windows, but i didn't see any low speeds like what you mentioned
If you're moving stuff internally within the NAS (not from pc to the NAS), then like onecd said, using filestation you can do it internally for best speed.
but that said, i also move stuff via file explorer on windows, but i didn't see any low speeds like what you mentioned
Last edited by Moogle Stiltzkin on Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:18 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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[Main Server] QNAP TS-877 (QTS) w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE
[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1
Network
Qotom Pfsense|100mbps FTTH | Win11, Ryzen 5600X Desktop (1x2tb Crucial P50 Plus M.2 SSD, 1x 8tb seagate Ironwolf,1x 4tb HGST Ultrastar 7K4000)
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[Main Server] QNAP TS-877 (QTS) w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE
[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1
Network
Qotom Pfsense|100mbps FTTH | Win11, Ryzen 5600X Desktop (1x2tb Crucial P50 Plus M.2 SSD, 1x 8tb seagate Ironwolf,1x 4tb HGST Ultrastar 7K4000)
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Re: Needs some light shed on transfer speeds.
... and copying via Windows Explorer between NAS shares will be slow. Better to do this within the NAS.
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Re: Needs some light shed on transfer speeds.
hope this helps
https://www.qnap.com/en-uk/how-to/tutor ... a-qnap-nas
https://www.qnap.com/en-uk/how-to/tutor ... a-qnap-nas
Last edited by Moogle Stiltzkin on Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.
NAS
[Main Server] QNAP TS-877 (QTS) w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE
[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1
Network
Qotom Pfsense|100mbps FTTH | Win11, Ryzen 5600X Desktop (1x2tb Crucial P50 Plus M.2 SSD, 1x 8tb seagate Ironwolf,1x 4tb HGST Ultrastar 7K4000)
Resources
[Review] Moogle's QNAP experience
[Review] Moogle's TS-877 review
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[Main Server] QNAP TS-877 (QTS) w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE
[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1
Network
Qotom Pfsense|100mbps FTTH | Win11, Ryzen 5600X Desktop (1x2tb Crucial P50 Plus M.2 SSD, 1x 8tb seagate Ironwolf,1x 4tb HGST Ultrastar 7K4000)
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Re: Needs some light shed on transfer speeds.
Updating drivers seems to have fixed the speedsMoogle Stiltzkin wrote:also if your pc has more than 2 ethernet ports, try changing the cable to use the other, see if anything changes?
If your moving stuff internally within the NAS (not from pc to the NAS), then like onecd said, using filestation you can do it internally for best speed.
but that said, i also move stuff via file explorer on windows, but i didn't see any low speeds like what you mentioned
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Re: Needs some light shed on transfer speeds.
I'll give that a try too. It was just more convenient using windows to move things around imo.OneCD wrote:... and copying via Windows Explorer between NAS shares will be slow. Better to do this within the NAS.
Edit: Just gave it a try with the qnap software and holy sh!t, I moved a 16gb file to another folder and it was done in under 10sec.
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Re: Needs some light shed on transfer speeds.
so both explorer and filestation work now? glad it worked :} gratz
if it's just a couple of stuff i simply use file explorer. but if you are moving a lot... i'd seriously consider using filestation for that (for internal file/folder transfers in QNAP)
if it's just a couple of stuff i simply use file explorer. but if you are moving a lot... i'd seriously consider using filestation for that (for internal file/folder transfers in QNAP)
NAS
[Main Server] QNAP TS-877 (QTS) w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE
[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1
Network
Qotom Pfsense|100mbps FTTH | Win11, Ryzen 5600X Desktop (1x2tb Crucial P50 Plus M.2 SSD, 1x 8tb seagate Ironwolf,1x 4tb HGST Ultrastar 7K4000)
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[Review] Moogle's QNAP experience
[Review] Moogle's TS-877 review
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[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1
Network
Qotom Pfsense|100mbps FTTH | Win11, Ryzen 5600X Desktop (1x2tb Crucial P50 Plus M.2 SSD, 1x 8tb seagate Ironwolf,1x 4tb HGST Ultrastar 7K4000)
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Re: Needs some light shed on transfer speeds.
Yep, all working perfectly now. Definitely going to be using filestation for big or a lot of file moving, just couldn't believe how fast it was lolMoogle Stiltzkin wrote:so both explorer and filestation work now? glad it worked :} gratz
if it's just a couple of stuff i simply use file explorer. but if you are moving a lot... i'd seriously consider using filestation for that (for internal file/folder transfers in QNAP)
Thanks a lot for letting me know about updating the drivers!
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Re: Needs some light shed on transfer speeds.
you're welcome
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[Main Server] QNAP TS-877 (QTS) w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE
[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1
Network
Qotom Pfsense|100mbps FTTH | Win11, Ryzen 5600X Desktop (1x2tb Crucial P50 Plus M.2 SSD, 1x 8tb seagate Ironwolf,1x 4tb HGST Ultrastar 7K4000)
Resources
[Review] Moogle's QNAP experience
[Review] Moogle's TS-877 review
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[Main Server] QNAP TS-877 (QTS) w. 4tb [ 3x HGST Deskstar NAS & 1x WD RED NAS ] EXT4 Raid5 & 2 x m.2 SATA Samsung 850 Evo raid1 +16gb ddr4 Crucial+ QWA-AC2600 wireless+QXP PCIE
[Backup] QNAP TS-653A (Truenas Core) w. 4x 2TB Samsung F3 (HD203WI) RaidZ1 ZFS + 8gb ddr3 Crucial
[^] QNAP TL-D400S 2x 4TB WD Red Nas (WD40EFRX) 2x 4TB Seagate Ironwolf, Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-509 Pro w. 4x 1TB WD RE3 (WD1002FBYS) EXT4 Raid5
[^] QNAP TS-253D (Truenas Scale)
[Mobile NAS] TBS-453DX w. 2x Crucial MX500 500gb EXT4 raid1
Network
Qotom Pfsense|100mbps FTTH | Win11, Ryzen 5600X Desktop (1x2tb Crucial P50 Plus M.2 SSD, 1x 8tb seagate Ironwolf,1x 4tb HGST Ultrastar 7K4000)
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