What are you doing with your Qnap?

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elvisimprsntr
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What are you doing with your Qnap?

Post by elvisimprsntr » Wed Apr 26, 2017 4:05 pm

BACKGROUND

Replaced my 10 yo DIY NAS, ZoneMinder NVR, home automation glue server with a TS-453A.

DRIVE CONFIG

3xRAID5 NAS drives
1xNVR drive

THE GOOD

1. TimeMachine/AFP/SAMBA
2. Surveillance Station
3. On demand Windows and Ubuntu VMs (frees up client disk space hosting VirtualBox VMs)
4. 24/7 Ubuntu Server VM for open source Homebridge (Apple HomeKit equivalent) for my non-HomeKit Insteon lighting, security system, and IP cameras. Works great, at least until Apple spoils the fun.
5. Haven't set up DVR yet, but plan to.

THE BAD

I was disappointed to discover the QNAP SS uses and non-standard RTSP authentication method (cookies and/or a SID) to share streams, which makes it impossible to share streams with existing third party IP camera apps. Trying to get QNAP to publish the SS API. I looked at the Synology SS documentation which indicated you can share streams, so took a chance on a single bay DS116. If the Synology does what I want, I will move the surveillance drive to the DS116, drop another NAS drive into the QNAP and migrate to RAID6. If the Synology does not share streams, I have a separate NAS for critical backups.

THE UGLY

What should I do with my 10 yo server? Don't want to repurpose it because it's a power and space hog. Too old to be useful to anyone else. I know. Salvage what I can, use the rest for target practice, then send the remains off to the recycler.


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[Daily] TS-253A-16G, R1x2x4TB Seagate ST4000VN008, Crucial CT2KIT102464BF160B
[Weekly] USB3, 1x4TB Seagate STDR4000901, 45 min fire rated safe
[WAN1] ATT Fiber
[WAN2] SpeedTalk SIM in Netgear LTE Modem
[Firewall] pfSense on Protectli
[NTP] GPS NTP Server
[WLAN] OpenWRT on Linksys WRT3200ACM
[UPS] APC Back-UPS BX1500G

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Re: What are you doing with your Qnap?

Post by BenlyHar » Fri Apr 28, 2017 5:13 pm

A friend of mine is also using a VPN on its NAS system. Is it worth doing? What's the use of using a VPN on NAS system?

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What are you doing with your Qnap?

Post by elvisimprsntr » Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:30 pm

UPDATE

It seems the Synology Surveillance Station does not support standard RSTP authentication of shared streams. It also uses a session id which will not be static.

Returned to Amazon for refund. Picked up a dedicated NVR from the manufacturer of my IP cameras which does support RSTP authentication.
[Hourly] TS-453A-16G, R5x4x2TB Seagate ST2000VN000, Crucial CT2KIT102464BF160B
[Daily] TS-253A-16G, R1x2x4TB Seagate ST4000VN008, Crucial CT2KIT102464BF160B
[Weekly] USB3, 1x4TB Seagate STDR4000901, 45 min fire rated safe
[WAN1] ATT Fiber
[WAN2] SpeedTalk SIM in Netgear LTE Modem
[Firewall] pfSense on Protectli
[NTP] GPS NTP Server
[WLAN] OpenWRT on Linksys WRT3200ACM
[UPS] APC Back-UPS BX1500G

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Re: What are you doing with your Qnap?

Post by rony albert » Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:52 pm

Making my life easy with QNAP!
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Re: What are you doing with your Qnap?

Post by BenlyHar » Fri May 19, 2017 7:28 pm

elvisimprsntr wrote:UPDATE

It seems the Synology Surveillance Station does not support standard RSTP authentication of shared streams. It also uses a session id which will not be static.

Returned to Amazon for refund. Picked up a dedicated NVR from the manufacturer of my IP cameras which does support RSTP authentication.



Where did you get this info?

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What are you doing with your Qnap?

Post by elvisimprsntr » Fri May 19, 2017 8:20 pm

BenlyHar wrote:
elvisimprsntr wrote:UPDATE

It seems the Synology Surveillance Station does not support standard RSTP authentication of shared streams. It also uses a session id which will not be static.

Returned to Amazon for refund. Picked up a dedicated NVR from the manufacturer of my IP cameras which does support RSTP authentication.



Where did you get this info?



Unlike the QNAP SS, Synology actually publishes their API. Also confirmed via Wireshark during my testing.

https://global.download.synology.com/do ... I_v2.0.pdf

The Synology SS uses session IDs which the majority of third party IP camera apps only support basic or digest authentication to connect to RTSP streams or images.
[Hourly] TS-453A-16G, R5x4x2TB Seagate ST2000VN000, Crucial CT2KIT102464BF160B
[Daily] TS-253A-16G, R1x2x4TB Seagate ST4000VN008, Crucial CT2KIT102464BF160B
[Weekly] USB3, 1x4TB Seagate STDR4000901, 45 min fire rated safe
[WAN1] ATT Fiber
[WAN2] SpeedTalk SIM in Netgear LTE Modem
[Firewall] pfSense on Protectli
[NTP] GPS NTP Server
[WLAN] OpenWRT on Linksys WRT3200ACM
[UPS] APC Back-UPS BX1500G

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Re: What are you doing with your Qnap?

Post by riahc3 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:17 pm

It's such a piece of **, that we use it as a temporary file server where all the ** goes.

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Re: What are you doing with your Qnap?

Post by BenlyHar » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:14 pm

elvisimprsntr wrote:
BenlyHar wrote:
elvisimprsntr wrote:UPDATE

It seems the Synology Surveillance Station does not support standard RSTP authentication of shared streams. It also uses a session id which will not be static.

Returned to Amazon for refund. Picked up a dedicated NVR from the manufacturer of my IP cameras which does support RSTP authentication.



Where did you get this info?



Unlike the QNAP SS, Synology actually publishes their API. Also confirmed via Wireshark during my testing.

https://global.download.synology.com/do ... I_v2.0.pdf

The Synology SS uses session IDs which the majority of third party IP camera apps only support basic or digest authentication to connect to RTSP streams or images.


Why do they do that?
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Re: What are you doing with your Qnap?

Post by BenlyHar » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:16 pm

riahc3 wrote:It's such a piece of **, that we use it as a temporary file server where all the ** goes.



Yes exactly man.

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Re: What are you doing with your Qnap?

Post by BenlyHar » Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:41 pm

QNAP is better. I thank myself for making a choice of shifting from Synology to Qnap.

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Re: What are you doing with your Qnap?

Post by dtiertant » Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:57 pm

TS-469-Pro (RAID10)

Home use:

- Media storage with SMB shares accessed by my Boxee Box media player
- PC backup and archiving

Work use:

- PC backup and archiving with an SMB share for each user and 600 GB quota
- Repository for documents scanned from our network printers
- Departmental shares (Sales, Marketing, Consulting, etc.)

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Re: What are you doing with your Qnap?

Post by BenlyHar » Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:32 pm

Well, everything was going good and I was considering myself a champ at Qnap untill a few sharing and transferring problems occurred. Right now I only have media streaming going strong there

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Re: What are you doing with your Qnap?

Post by Moogle Stiltzkin » Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:44 pm

BenlyHar wrote:Well, everything was going good and I was considering myself a champ at Qnap untill a few sharing and transferring problems occurred. Right now I only have media streaming going strong there


That didn't last long :S

j/k :mrgreen:

what problem? did you make a support ticket yet? check my Faq in my sig.
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Re: What are you doing with your Qnap?

Post by BenlyHar » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:52 pm

Moogle Stiltzkin wrote:
BenlyHar wrote:Well, everything was going good and I was considering myself a champ at Qnap untill a few sharing and transferring problems occurred. Right now I only have media streaming going strong there


That didn't last long :S

j/k :mrgreen:

what problem? did you make a support ticket yet? check my Faq in my sig.



LOL Ikr.


Sharing format is changing whenever I put something in my USB to transfer it to NAP. Don't know what's wrong. I have tried it with every external USB that I have. All are on NTFS format. None is working.

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Re: What are you doing with your Qnap?

Post by BenlyHar » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:54 pm

Checking sir.

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