exFAT support for external drives

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Re: exFAT support for external drives

Post by kherr4377 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:17 pm

sunheat wrote:You see, the fact is, $3.99 (I'm assuming it's US dollars) isn't trivial. For people who don't HAVE TO use exFAT, it's too much. If you make it $0.99 (or even better, 0.99 Australian dollars), I'd be happy to pay.

I don't have to use exFAT, but considering the options it's the all around best solution. And you are charging me that much for a feature widely available elsewhere which is a nice to have for me. That prevents me from paying.


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Re: exFAT support for external drives

Post by ja666 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:21 pm

The exFAT license is not tranferable between QNAP and Synology NAS-es?

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Re: exFAT support for external drives

Post by Don » Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:58 pm

ja666 wrote:The exFAT license is not tranferable between QNAP and Synology NAS-es?

No. Why would a license from one company be transferable to another company?
Read the Online Manuals and use the forum search feature before posting.

It is a recommended to use RAID and have external backups. RAID will protect you from disk failure, keep your system running, and data accessible while the disk is replaced and the RAID rebuilt. Backups will allow you to recover data that is lost or corrupted, or from system failure. One does not replace the other.

Submit bugs and feature requests to QNAP via their Helpdesk app.

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Re: exFAT support for external drives

Post by rony albert » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:50 am

ja666 wrote:The exFAT license is not tranferable between QNAP and Synology NAS-es?


In my sense, how they can be interchangeable?
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Re: exFAT support for external drives

Post by ja666 » Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:09 pm

How many companies (and which one) invented exFAT file system?

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Re: exFAT support for external drives

Post by P3R » Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:18 pm

ja666 wrote:How many companies (and which one) invented exFAT file system?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=exfat
RAID have never ever been a replacement for backups. Without backups on a different system (preferably placed at another site), you will eventually lose data!

A non-RAID configuration (including RAID 0, which isn't really RAID) with a backup on a separate media protects your data far better than any RAID-volume without backup.

All data storage consists of both the primary storage and the backups. It's your money and your data, spend the storage budget wisely or pay with your data!

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Re: exFAT support for external drives

Post by schumaku » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:25 am

ja666 wrote:The exFAT license is not tranferable between QNAP and Synology NAS-es?
No. The license is not even transferable from an old to a new NAS - very similar to a Microsoft OEM license, the license is linked to the hardware.

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Re: exFAT support for external drives

Post by ja666 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:23 am

To the hardware like HDDs (OEM). Do they offer exFAT licence transfer with HDDs transfer (from an old to a new NAS)? Where the similarity is?

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Re: exFAT support for external drives

Post by Don » Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:27 am

The license is linked to the NAS.
Read the Online Manuals and use the forum search feature before posting.

It is a recommended to use RAID and have external backups. RAID will protect you from disk failure, keep your system running, and data accessible while the disk is replaced and the RAID rebuilt. Backups will allow you to recover data that is lost or corrupted, or from system failure. One does not replace the other.

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Re: exFAT support for external drives

Post by Yoyo73 » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:05 am

Hello 8)

I bought exFat driver yesterday.
Everything looks fine (I'm using QTS QTS 4.3.2) except the fact that i can't format externals USB devices into that filesystem ...
So I wonder if this is not a joke for the price they sold it ...

Why don't they use a free open source driver like this one ? https://github.com/relan/exfat

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Re: exFAT support for external drives

Post by schumaku » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:36 am

Yoyo73 wrote:Everything looks fine (I'm using QTS QTS 4.3.2) except the fact that i can't format externals USB devices into that filesystem ...
...appears to be a lost or "forgotten" feature. About first question to QNAP was about the lack of set or change a volume label (for external storage shared folder creation) and about the lack of a format option. It's promised that the final 4.3 release should cover it all.

Yoyo73 wrote:Why don't they use a free open source driver like this one ?
Open Source and "free" does not mean license and loyalty free. The commercial non-native file systems perform in general much better than the open source implementations.

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Re: exFAT support for external drives

Post by Benna80 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:56 am

Yoyo73 wrote:Hello 8)

I bought exFat driver yesterday.
Everything looks fine (I'm using QTS QTS 4.3.2) except the fact that i can't format externals USB devices into that filesystem ...
So I wonder if this is not a joke for the price they sold it ...



+1 in the Club. Just bought the license and with great surprise i found that is not possible to format an external drive, and this is written nowhere.
**, i'll ask directly to the support

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Re: exFAT support for external drives

Post by AcerTravel » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:25 am

Any news ?
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Re: exFAT support for external drives

Post by Benna80 » Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:31 am

I've opened the ticket on friday night, i expect that QNAP will contact me within few days. As soon as i've any news i'll post here :)

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Re: exFAT support for external drives

Post by Benna80 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:30 am

Here's the reply:

Dear Davide,

May I know whether you formatted the external drive with exFAT by Windows or Mac system?

Tutorial: https://www.qnap.com/en/how-to/tutorial ... a-qnap-nas
Using exFAT devices on QNAP NAS:

After connecting exFAT devices to your QNAP NAS, you can view them in "Storage Manager" > "External Device". You can also access the files stored on these exFAT devices using File Station.

To format a device to use exFAT file system, use a Windows PC or related utilities on another OS. For more information about formatting devices in Windows 7, please visit https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/hel ... partition/



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