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Ryzen TS-X77 available for sale now?

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Was reading up tech site and i noticed the release date for this :shock:
https://www.qnap.com/en/news/2017/compu ... -based-nas

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QNAP plans to start selling its AMD Ryzen-based 12-bay TS-1277 NAS in late July. The top-of-the-range model with a Ryzen 7 1700 and 64 GB of memory will cost $3,099, a slightly cheaper SKU with the same processor, but 32 GB of DDR4 will retail for $2,599, whereas the most affordable configuration powered by AMD’s six-core Ryzen 5 1600 will be available for $2,299.

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http://www.anandtech.com/show/11523/qna ... ryzen-cpus
QNAP demonstrated its upcoming 12-bay NAS devices at Computex 2017, including most notably models powered by AMD’s Ryzen processors. The NAS will support HDDs and SSDs in various form-factors and will start at $2,299. In addition, the company is prepping 6-bay and 8-bay NAS featuring AMD’s Ryzen CPUs that will be more affordable.

The QNAP TS-1277 series NASes are powered by AMD’s Ryzen 7 1700 or Ryzen 5 1600 CPUs with eight and six cores respectively, and come with up to 64 GB of DDR4-2400 DRAM. All the systems use four GbE ports to connect to networks and have eight 3.5”/2.5” bays as well as four 2.5” bays for various SATA storage devices. As you'd expect for a NAS, there's a multitude of RAID options available, with the NAS hardware able to tap the large number of drives here for RAID 50/60 operation. In addition, the NASes feature two M.2 slots (up to M.2-22110) for SSDs that can cache frequently used data.

Meanwhile, the TS-1277 has one PCIe 3.0 x8 and two PCIe 3.0 x4 slots, and thus can be upgraded with QNAP's QM2 PCIe cards, which offer options such as 10GbE networking and additional M.2 slots. For those who needs to have access to the TS-1277 from a local PC or to a DAS, the NAS has two USB 3.1 ports (Type-A and Type-C) and five USB 3.0 headers (Type-A). As for power, the TS-1277 is equipped with a 550 W PSU and can handle all kinds of HDDs and SSDs (as long as they are compatible with SATA-6G and do not require management by the host) as well as almost any graphics card in the PCIe 3.0 x8 slot.

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http://www.anandtech.com/show/11523/qna ... ryzen-cpus
QNAP is the first NAS manufacturer to start using AMD’s Ryzen processors for network area storage. AMD’s CPUs traditionally have strong integer performance, making them a good fit for NAS tasks. Meanwhile, the high core counts of the Ryzen CPUs also enables QNAP to position their TS-1277/TS-877/TS-677 NASes for hosting virtual machines or containerized applications.

During a conversation at Computex, QNAP also mentioned that the prices of AMD’s Ryzen processors (relative to its rivals) were also a major factor in their decision to use Ryzen CPUs for NASes.
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The ryzen is great. to put it another way ryzen 5 1400 and ryzen 6 1500 is better value than an Intel i3 and I5 or at least within that ballpark for performance but with more cores/threads :mrgreen:
AMD Ryzen as Fast As Possible
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In the youtube example thats game while streaming. But for NAS, couldn't that also similarly be the same scenario when running a bunch of apps while your transcoding from plex, say (multi tasking) ?



Another thing to consider on one hand the intel will come with an igpu (quicksync?), but the ryzen won't. But a x77 you could install your own gpu card. Then using virtualization you can GPU passthrough :)


Anyway it only mentions 1277. Anyone know if the other bay models for it is going to be release at the same time as well? also would any of the other models be able to install gpu as well considering their psus?

*update
The TS-x77 series will be available in 6, 8, and 12-bay models with AMD Ryzen 7 (8-cores/16-threads) and AMD Ryzen 5 (6-cores/12-threads and 4-core/8-thread) processors that support AES-NI encryption acceleration and up to 64GB DDR4 RAM. Every model in the series provides three PCIe Gen.3 slots for incredible expansion potential for supporting 10GbE/40GbE NICs, PCIe NVMe SSD, graphics cards, and USB 3.1 expansion cards. Two M.2 SATA 6 GB/s SSD slots are provided for cache acceleration or high-performance storage pools.
I guess even the 250 PSU unit is marketed as such. But is that enough though for a 1050gtx as an example? :' or is that overkill.


PS: i've owned both intel and amd cpus in the past. not playing favourites on cpus here, i go where the best value is. so when i'm saying ryzen is great, i'm not trying to start a fanbase war. If a kabylake is the better deal feel free to share why, i'm also interested to know the pros and cons too :D Anyway Ryzen got me interested again in Amd. Graphics not so much (maybe not until vega anyway), thats why i went with pascal (if only because volta got delayed :( )
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Re: Ryzen TS-X77 on sale in late July?

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any updates? it's already last day month of july o_O; or were they referring to next year july?

i did not see any official announcements yet. Only had anandtechs late july release date to go by.
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Moogle Stiltzkin wrote:any updates? it's already last day month of july o_O; or were they referring to next year july?.
lol looks like your asking yourself this question?

QNAP Press Releases are just that. and they seem to be very "trigger happy" releasing news, but the actual mainstream production, can, and does, have issues from time to time so the release of this maybe delayed. You would be best asking in the Presales section of this forum, where one of the PM's may comment officially, otherwise contact Presales here: https://www.qnap.com/en/before_buy/con_ ... wone&cid=4

I know the TS-453BT3 is delayed.
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Toxic17 wrote:
Moogle Stiltzkin wrote:any updates? it's already last day month of july o_O; or were they referring to next year july?.
lol looks like your asking yourself this question?

QNAP Press Releases are just that. and they seem to be very "trigger happy" releasing news, but the actual mainstream production, can, and does, have issues from time to time so the release of this maybe delayed. You would be best asking in the Presales section of this forum, where one of the PM's may comment officially, otherwise contact Presales here: https://www.qnap.com/en/before_buy/con_ ... wone&cid=4

not at all, just putting question out there in case someone else knows what changed and wanted to answer or not :)

but yeah your right, presales area my bad :( i'll try asking :)
Toxic17 wrote: I know the TS-453BT3 is delayed.
this i did not know :shock:
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Actually if you read QNAP's press release, they say
The QNAP TS-x77 NAS will be available from Q3 2017.
Anandtech was the one promising July. QNAP still has a couple more months before Q4 :)
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Trexx wrote:Actually if you read QNAP's press release, they say
The QNAP TS-x77 NAS will be available from Q3 2017.
Anandtech was the one promising July. QNAP still has a couple more months before Q4 :)
fake news! :( i'll be more careful moving on reading from anandtech. i did try earlier to find a date from multiple sources but to no end.

anyway thx.
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I recently contacted QNAP about the release date.
As to the release date, its late October to early November for the release.
Also, I stumbled across a YouTube Live video that will air this Monday (Sept 11) at 6am Eastern time. [youtube=]ngEJOAGkc7A[/youtube]

*UPDATED - changed video url to post-live video
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NicFord1 wrote:I recently contacted QNAP about the release date.
As to the release date, its late October to early November for the release.
Also, I stumbled across a YouTube Live video that will air this Monday (Sept 11) at 6am Eastern time. [youtube=]bGVTCWOVjGk[/youtube]
Nice find Nic. Thanks for sharing :)
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NicFord1 wrote:I recently contacted QNAP about the release date.
As to the release date, its late October to early November for the release.
Also, I stumbled across a YouTube Live video that will air this Monday (Sept 11) at 6am Eastern time.
ty it's a new video i did not see yet.
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Must have been a typ'o' on the year., probably should have been Q3 2018 :)
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talnas wrote:Must have been a typ'o' on the year., probably should have been Q3 2018 :)
new video launched
[youtube=]vTGtjF7Xe3A[/youtube]


product page is also up
https://www.qnap.com/en/product/ts-1277


but not sure when it's available but probably soon though judging by it's listing on the product page.
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Definetly waiting on this... Hopefully they will be available to purchase in the next few weeks... :)
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troubleshooter wrote:Definetly waiting on this... Hopefully they will be available to purchase in the next few weeks... :)
You should be able to I would think. QNAP officially released them last week, so now just a matter of getting them to the distributors/resellers. Anand has the announcement as well as the updated configuration (which changed a little since announcment earlier this year).

https://www.anandtech.com/show/11986/qn ... series-nas
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Trexx wrote:
troubleshooter wrote:Definetly waiting on this... Hopefully they will be available to purchase in the next few weeks... :)
You should be able to I would think. QNAP officially released them last week, so now just a matter of getting them to the distributors/resellers. Anand has the announcement as well as the updated configuration (which changed a little since announcment earlier this year).

https://www.anandtech.com/show/11986/qn ... series-nas

Saw this article along with a few others reading through the forums.. Thanks for the heads up though, much appreciated.. :)
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troubleshooter wrote: Saw this article along with a few others reading through the forums.. Thanks for the heads up though, much appreciated.. :)
I just received an email notification it's officially launched and for sale. i'm already trying to preorder one. hopefully get it before christmas :]


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